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Silence Dogood said:
More gotcha games. You're being dishonest on purpose.
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I was making a wry comment. Sad that you can't see that. Anyway, ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.

The reason that nobody cares to debate you is that you're terrible at it. When someone says in a debate, "well, the people think differently," they might as well just say they lost. When someone says in a debate, "that won't cut it in the real world," they might as well just say they lost. Especially if their interlocutor has worked on infinitely more billions-dollar financial transactions than you.
 
superrific said:
This guy not only doesn't understand basic math, he doesn't understand why basic math is relevant. I mean, there's no excuse for that. Do a fucking workbook if you can't remember 7th grade.
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It's not about facts, math, numbers or statistics. It's not about truth. It's about FEELINGS. MAGAs have been programmed to fear "illegals". All the statistics in the world won't change the way they feel.
 
Silence Dogood said:
The hoops the left is jumping through to defend ms13, but individuals locked up from Jan 6th never received a court date or were charged with a crime. Make it make sense
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Give us some names of folks locked up because of January 6 that did not receive a court date or were not charged with a crime.
 
Silence Dogood said:
Npr? Left leaning for sure. Same ol tired argument. You definitely know you have a losing position when that's the argument you're making. "Let's justify crime by one group because I found a biased study saying their crimes are less likely to occur, so therefore let's ignore the crime."
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Literally nobody is making that argument. Nobody is justifying any crime. Insisting on due process is not the same thing.

I wish someone would show up at your door unannounced, cuff you, throw your ass in a hole for two weeks. I bet you'd be fucking crying your eyes out. As you should. Because that's inhumane. But maybe if it happened to you, you might see the point a little bit more easily.
 
Silence Dogood said:
14 amendment applies to citizens
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This is true, but it doesn't **only** apply to citizens.

Nobody is going to talk law with you. To stoop to your level in order to have a "debate," I would have to forget basically everything I ever learned about law, government and half of my training in science. And I'm not going to do it. Read a book.
 
Silence Dogood said:
14 amendment applies to citizens
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Correct. 14th Amendment due process also applies to noncitizens in the US.

"Once an alien enters the country, the legal circumstance changes, for the Due Process Clause applies to all persons within the United States, including aliens, whether their presence is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent." Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678 (2001).
 
superrific said:
This is true, but it doesn't **only** apply to citizens.

Nobody is going to talk law with you. To stoop to your level in order to have a "debate," I would have to forget basically everything I ever learned about law, government and half of my training in science. And I'm not going to do it. Read a book.
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Who else does it apply to?
 
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