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superrific
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Doesn't matter. ICE has no jurisdiction over traffic stops. They should have called the cops, who could have issued her a citation and perhaps towed the car.
There is zero doubt that this was a bad shoot.
But the decedent victim was not a bystander driving their kid to school as has been repeated here a few times. She didn't deserve to be shot or killed and again a bad shoot. But she made more that one bad decision and intentionally put herself into a position of conflict with ICE.
I think visually that may be correct. The officer nearest the camera seems to be doing some motion with his hands that indicated that. And he certainly was in no rush. So she might have been a bit confused.
Is there a camera that shows her bad decisions or how do you know that?
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So? The protesters at Kent State intentionally put themselves into conflict with the militia.
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Wrong
So I am criticizing ICE for inciting a confrontation that invited the use of lethal force. That goes both ways, she invited a confrontation with armed ICE officers who show little respect or regard for civilian protesters. When that confrontation went sideways, her fight or flight reaction lead to the lethal response.
I know you are not really involved with the civil side of the law, but this is what we would consider to be comparative negligence.
That is so powerful to watch and listen to Rock . . !
I thank you for that share my brother.
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I think that guy had one hit of crystal meth too many.
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Gotta say, while it is a coincidence of timing of the events (J6 and this killing), they will forever be linked...
The ability of the 1st event to be re-written in the minds of 35% of our country has made it the no doubt tactic for MAGA here on out.
Don't believe your lying eyes, bc our control of your minds is so complete that literally no event is impossible for us to control your opinion of.
It is the essence of Trump-ism -- he says what he "feels", and then endeavors to make it "true" bc others feel it too.
(List is endless of these examples, but his recent statement that DC has had no murders since the Guard was on patrol is obviously false, and his description of this event and injuries to the ICE shooter are 2 recent of an infinite list).
Craziest thing is how much truth there was in Trump's (in)famous statement that he could 'shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it'... fact is, that statement is 100000% true as of Jan 8, 2026 and no matter how insane that sounds, i ain't lying
The ability of the 1st event to be re-written in the minds of 35% of our country has made it the no doubt tactic for MAGA here on out.
Don't believe your lying eyes, bc our control of your minds is so complete that literally no event is impossible for us to control your opinion of.
It is the essence of Trump-ism -- he says what he "feels", and then endeavors to make it "true" bc others feel it too.
(List is endless of these examples, but his recent statement that DC has had no murders since the Guard was on patrol is obviously false, and his description of this event and injuries to the ICE shooter are 2 recent of an infinite list).
Craziest thing is how much truth there was in Trump's (in)famous statement that he could 'shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it'... fact is, that statement is 100000% true as of Jan 8, 2026 and no matter how insane that sounds, i ain't lying
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I’m not a crier but man that ruined me. So powerful and so soul crushing.
God damn every single person who is gleefully stripping this woman of her humanity to score political points. And may God specifically damn JD Vance in the harshest possible manner.
AMEN