Iran Catch-All | IRAN WAR - US to BLOCKADE Strait

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ZenMode said:
The terrorists, as was the case in Gaza, aren't participating in the agreed to ceasefire?

My shocked face:
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I've read that Iran's communications have been damaged to the point where internal communication is difficult. I have no idea what its regime wants, but there's a non-zero chance there's some Battle of New Orleans stuff going on here.
 
This is such an incredible clusterfuck.


The 10-point plan that the Iranians had initially pitched was “fundamentally unserious, unacceptable, and completely discarded,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said. Then, in the hours before President Donald Trump’s 8 p.m. ET deadline, Iran “put forward a more reasonable and entirely different and condensed plan,” she said.

Trump and his team, she said, viewed the alternative plan as a “workable basis on which to negotiate” and that it could be aligned with the administration’s 15-point proposal, suggesting there is a disconnect between Iran’s public proclamations and what it is telling Trump’s team privately.

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Or maybe Leavitt is just making shit up.
 
ZenMode said:
Israel already had a separate thing going on with Labanon, going back to the Gaza war.
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Iran and Qatar have been fighting since the beginning of this war. US and Israel claim the ceasefire is between Israel, US, and Iran. The whole thing is a clusterfuck including the ceasefire.
 
Israel is every bit the piece of shit terrorist regime as the ones they are fighting in Hezbollah or their masters in Tehran. I’m always amazed that there are Americans who will bootlick and knee pad for Israel. So humiliating.
 
The AP is reporting that the United States is currently conducting air strikes in Tehran. Can’t believe the big beautiful cease-fire that was the most brilliant of all time, only lasted like 12 hours!
 
CFordUNC said:
Israel is every bit the piece of shit terrorist regime as the ones they are fighting in Hezbollah or their masters in Tehran. I’m always amazed that there are Americans who will bootlick and knee pad for Israel. So humiliating.
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I think I can say that Israel is not at all a "terrorist" regime as Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc are, without licking boots or getting on my knees. Is Israel perfect? Absolutely not, but the Gaza war was absolutely the result of Gaza/Hamas' actions on Oct 7 and decades earlier.
 
CFordUNC said:
The AP is reporting that the United States is currently conducting air strikes in Tehran. Can’t believe the big beautiful cease-fire that was the most brilliant of all time, only lasted like 12 hours!
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second time Trump has violated a peace deal with Iran. Do only terrorists violate peace deals? Is it worse when Iran violates a deal than if we do it?
 
ZenMode said:
I think I can say that Israel is not at all a "terrorist" regime as Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc are, without licking boots or getting on my knees. Is Israel perfect? Absolutely not, but the Gaza war was absolutely the result of Gaza/Hamas' actions on Oct 7 and decades earlier.
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You can certainly say whatever you want, if you don’t give a damn about having any credibility.

Israel is every bit as responsible for the carnage and the bloodshed in the Middle East dating back decades. They are every bit to blame as any of their Arab or Persian neighbors. Anyone with a slight semblance of the ability to be objective can see that. The regime in Iran sucks. The regime in Israel sucks. They both attack one another, kill civilians, and destroy civilian infrastructure without any care or consideration at all. That makes them both terrorists.
 
ZenMode said:
I think I can say that Israel is not at all a "terrorist" regime as Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc are, without licking boots or getting on my knees. Is Israel perfect? Absolutely not, but the Gaza war was absolutely the result of Gaza/Hamas' actions on Oct 7 and decades earlier.
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And the Palestinians actions on Oct 7 were absolutely the result of Israeli actions across decades earlier. This can go on forever.
 
CFordUNC said:
You can certainly say whatever you want, if you don’t give a damn about having any credibility.

Israel is every bit as responsible for the carnage and the bloodshed in the Middle East dating back decades. They are every bit to blame as any of their Arab or Persian neighbors. Anyone with a slight semblance of the ability to be objective can see that. The regime in Iran sucks. The regime in Israel sucks. They both attack one another, kill civilians, and destroy civilian infrastructure without any care or consideration at all. That makes them both terrorists.
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This is probably an unpopular opinion, but if I'm being honest, I am getting a bit tired of Israel constantly leading us around by our dicks. What do we owe them exactly? And why are we inserting ourself into historically unwinnable religious wars?
 
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