Iran Catch-All | IRAN WAR

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My CNN MSNOW summary
Israelis had the location of multiple leaders and took them out. Mossaud is real
Our forces took out a lot of Military targets.There is apparently a known negotiator-pronunced Larry Johnny (Lord knows how you spell it) that is likely in Charge . A major military command leader He is a "pragmatic idealouge" There are hopes he would "negotiate" , because he is pragmatic, moreso than the guys in Charge the last several decades
There is no non governmental group of folks that can "rise up" and overtake the Govt-no military like folks
So whatcha got Larry-Johnny ?
 
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IF Khameini is in fact dead, that’s a good thing.

IF this somehow leads to a regime change AND said regime change is more pro-West instead of more radical Islamic, that’s a good thing.

IF we are somehow able to do both of those things without shedding American blood, that’s a good thing.

I certainly support the crippling of a potential nuclear weapons program in Iran, and certainly support the ending of what has been one of the most brutal and longest standing authoritarian regimes in the world.

However,

It is completely unacceptable that the administration did not even attempt to make a case to the American people.

It is completely unacceptable that the administration did not even attempt to make a case to Congress.

It is completely unacceptable that Congress does not do its job to act as an to act as a check on the executive branch, ever.

It is completely unacceptable that the candidate who ran on ending forever wars, and not getting in the United States entangled into foreign conflicts, has become a warhawk.

It is completely unacceptable that yet again we are going to spend ungodly amounts of American money and potentially American lives on Israel’s behalf, fighting a conflict that is Israel’s alone.
 
CFordUNC said:
I certainly support the crippling of a potential nuclear weapons program in Iran, and certainly support the ending of what has been one of the most brutal and longest standing authoritarian regimes in the world.
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Brutal authoritarian regimes aren’t a problem for Trump. He admires them. He and Kim Jung Un are regular pals. Not to mention his current partner in crime Benjie Netanyahu.
 
farce© said:
Unlike other conservative posters here Calla has made some thoughtful posts, seems to genuinely understand that Trump is a crook and a liar (although he accepts it as the price for not having a Democrat in office) and has seemed open to persuasion on a few topics. In some ways he reminded me of Krafty before he finally had his epiphany.
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Not just a democrat. But the last democrat. There are a few democrats i can get behind. None that are the current faces of the party though.
 
Delta74 said:
That’s exactly the point. Democrats know he’s full of shit and nobody should take him seriously. Trump does this act on purpose so when he does say something outrageous or lies or whatever he can always go back and say, “the fake news tries to do “got ya’s” on me when obviously I was kidding”.

You and your ilk allow him to keep double speaking and bullshitting because “winning”.
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That has been his shtick long before he got into politics
 
farce© said:
Brutal authoritarian regimes aren’t a problem for Trump. He admires them. He and Kim Jung Un are regular pals. Not to mention his current partner in crime Benjie Netanyahu.
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Oh I totally agree. I just mean that in general it's good for the world for Khameini to be dead, even if killing a brutal authoritarian for the altruistic purposes was less Trump's goal and more of a happy coincidence.
 
CFordUNC said:
IF Khameini is in fact dead, that’s a good thing.

IF this somehow leads to a regime change AND said regime change is more pro-West instead of more radical Islamic, that’s a good thing.

IF we are somehow able to do both of those things without shedding American blood, that’s a good thing.

I certainly support the crippling of a potential nuclear weapons program in Iran, and certainly support the ending of what has been one of the most brutal and longest standing authoritarian regimes in the world.

However,

It is completely unacceptable that the administration did not even attempt to make a case to the American people.

It is completely unacceptable that the administration did not even attempt to make a case to Congress.

It is completely unacceptable that Congress does not do its job to act as an to act as a check on the executive branch, ever.

It is completely unacceptable that the candidate who ran on ending forever wars, and not getting in the United States entangled into foreign conflicts, has become a warhawk.

It is completely unacceptable that yet again we are going to spend ungodly amounts of American money and potentially American lives on Israel’s behalf, fighting a conflict that is Israel’s alone.
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He did notify parts of congress. No president makes a case to the American people before a strike. Did Clinton or Obama or Biden go before the American public and announce a strike before they green lighted it?
 
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