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Callatoroy said:
Yep, nobody can afford to go to the doctor, or buy groceries, or get an education. Emotional bullshit. Hard to have an intelligent political conversation with someone who is incapable of separating emotion from facts.
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You are truly a retarded individual. I don’t even mean that in the typical way that it is used as a slur- I mean you truly appear to be retarded in your ability to see, understand, and process anything outside of your little personal bubble. You are certainly intellectually stunted.

Are you truly attempting to argue that there are millions upon millions upon millions of Americans for whom those things are not true? Surely you’re not, right? Surely you are not trying to argue that much of the lower, working, and middle classes aren’t in dire financial straits?
 
There will be no "Regime Change" in all likelyhood.The institutions are firmly entrenched .
There will be new leadership. I assume orangeturd thinks the new leadership will be in Fear and awe of him and act differently. They may make some Deals to enrich oil companies-but they won't discontinue being a (the?) primary sponsor of terrorists around the world .
 
nycfan said:
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How the hell is this not going to significantly raise gas prices in the US? I love Trump basically saying that he's "not concerned" about gas prices going up, but I can guarantee you that a lot of struggling American families are going to care if the price suddenly shoots up. And him bragging that no American lives were lost and it turns out that some were killed just shows how little he cares about US servicemen and women that he's sending into harm's way. There is no doubt whatsoever that he sees them as cannon fodder, as he's hinted at that before.
 
CFordUNC said:
I’ve started forming a theory as to why @Callatoroy has such a seemingly especial hard-on for you and I in particular. It’s been kind of puzzling me that we are but two folks here in this community of many dozens, yet he’s always keen on going out of his way to psychoanalyze us and accuse us of being wrecks, emotional, irrational, illogical, etc. but never actually providing anything to rebut.

He hates that the two of us are poor red neck country boys from eastern NC who grew up, got out, made something of ourselves, and realized how much utter horseshit we’d been made to believe growing up- the same horseshit that he still apparently guzzles through an intravenous line as a middle aged man. He can’t stand that people like us know and understand ignorant pieces of shit like him better than most, because we were once exactly like him. The only difference is, we were that way in our teens and 20’s and were able to grow up, while he’s stuck being an angry and aggrieved mid-50’s douchebag on a message board.
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It’s because you are two of the very few posters who don’t have him on ignore or super ignore. Last ones standing if you will.
 
There are always going to be segments of society who struggle. To imply we shouldn’t take actions to ensure national security because that money should be spent on addressing poverty is shortsighted and we do spend and have spent trillions on poverty. This thread is about Iran. If you want to discuss the economic issues in your emotional breakdown post start a thread on homelessness or decent meals or going to the doctor (thanks dems for setting that deadline for subsidies to end)
 
Callatoroy said:
There are always going to be segments of society who struggle. To imply we shouldn’t take actions to ensure national security because that money should be spent on addressing poverty is shortsighted and we do spend and have spent trillions on poverty. This thread is about Iran. If you want to discuss the economic issues in your emotional breakdown post start a thread on homelessness or decent meals or going to the doctor (thanks dems for setting that deadline for subsidies to end)
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You are truly a pathetic little man. Time for you to run off and hide for another few weeks until the next time you want to come here and try to pick a fight with folks who don’t give a flying goddamn about you.
 
Callatoroy said:
There are always going to be segments of society who struggle. To imply we shouldn’t take actions to ensure national security because that money should be spent on addressing poverty is shortsighted and we do spend and have spent trillions on poverty. This thread is about Iran. If you want to discuss the economic issues in your emotional breakdown post start a thread on homelessness or decent meals or going to the doctor (thanks dems for setting that deadline for subsidies to end)
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In the latest military operation, whose national security was at stake?
 
Ho Lee Fuk.


The letter, dated March 24, 2018, appears among millions of documents released as part of the Epstein case. In it, Trivers refers to a meeting between Epstein and Ahmadinejad in New York following the Iranian leader’s speeches at the United Nations General Assembly, where he had delivered strongly worded remarks against Israel and Zionism.

According to statements by Steven Hoffenberg, a former close associate of Epstein, Epstein received training in the early 1980s under Sir Douglas Leese, whom Hoffenberg described as instructing Epstein in arms smuggling, the creation of shell companies, and money laundering.

Hoffenberg has said that by 1983, Epstein was directly involved in the sale of Chinese weapons to Iran through the state-owned company Norinco, at the height of the Iran-Iraq war.
 
Wexner agreed (among others I'm sure) to bankroll - he has connections with Mossad. He's listed as an undicted co-conspirator.

Justice Department releases names of 3 people the FBI once called Jeffrey Epstein 'co-conspirators'

It's only when a Zelig-level character has kompromat over the rich and powerful that he exists, bankrolled by Mossad assets.


A century from now (assuming Trump doesn't destroy the US and/or Earth) the history of Trump 1.0 and 2.0 will be all about kompromat from multiple nations (e.g., Russia, China, Israel, etc.). IMO, it could not be more obvious now.
 
nycfan said:
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So basically the new Iranian leadership is going to be at least as bad, if not worse, then the old leadership. Great going, Trumpers! Which means those 3 American military personnel died for nothing - no regime change, and the claims that Iran was "close" to getting nuclear weapons has been a false claim of Israel for the past twenty or more years - Iran is always just a few weeks (two weeks?) away from getting a nuclear weapon or attacking somebody. But hey, Dear Leader and Hegseth got to act macho and talk tough and bomb some people with their cool weapons, so who cares, right? Only the families of those dead servicemen, which they don't care about at all.
 
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mpaer said:
There will be no "Regime Change" in all likelyhood.The institutions are firmly entrenched .
There will be new leadership. I assume orangeturd thinks the new leadership will be in Fear and awe of him and act differently. They may make some Deals to enrich oil companies-but they won't discontinue being a (the?) primary sponsor of terrorists around the world .
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Same as Venezuela. Commies and Mullahs still rule.

My condolences to the families of our lost military service people.
 
CFordUNC said:


I hope it ends up to be completely unfounded, but this is precisely my fear, that all we’ll have really accomplished is to usher in uneven more radical regime.
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And one that will be even more determined to get a nuclear deterrent to stop these kinds of attacks and will be fanatical and crazy enough to use them. And one that may decide if the USA and Israel are going to "take out" their leaders, then taking out American and Israeli government leaders is perfect payback. Especially if the leader will be the son of the man who was just killed in a joint US/Israeli military attack.
 
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