Iran Catch-All | IRAN WAR

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Where is Trump getting his hour to hour war updates ?

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'Trump lying': Top military officials tear apart president's take on Iran school massacre

The U.S. military disputed President Donald Trump's claims about an airstrike that killed at least 175 people at an Iranian elementary school.Three current and former defense officials, and even Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, pushed back on the president's claim that Iran had launched the...
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Well, except for that teeny tiny little inconvenient fact that the new Supreme Leader is the son of the deposed Supreme Leader, and the new Supreme Leader is an actual America/Israel-loathing hardass hardliner compared to his father, and the new Supreme Leader has the unconditional support of the other radical hardass hardliners in the IRGC, and oh yeah, we just happened to have blown the new Supreme Leader's entire immediate family up so he's probs feeling extra "terroristic" toward the United States and Israel! But yeah, otherwise, we're "getting rid of the terrorist regime" in Iran! Great work, MAGAts, you impossibly stupid fucking morons.
 
1moretimeagain said:
He couldn’t handle what he saw in the futures market last night.
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It's so ironic that in a very twisted, very convoluted way, it's actually beneficial to us to have a POTUS who is an enormous chickenshit wuss in every aspect of his life. If he wasn't prone to TACO's, we'd be truly, possibly irrevocably, FUBAR more than we already are.
 


LMAO. Great job, MAGAts, we've lost like 80 years of American military basing in the Gulf in 8 days, and in the most expensive way possible too! WINNING!
 
CFordUNC said:


Lolololololol such a colossal coward in every possible way.

Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely hoping and cheering for a giant TACO this time as it's the best possible scenario. But it's hilarious how feeble this man is.
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He’s such a weak little pussy.
 
Trump may be declaring a TACO. But before he does that, he might want to ask if oil shipping has been normalized thru the Strait. Its hard to believe that Iran is going to just let him TACO out without extracting some pain and reestablishing their Strait deterrence.
 
"...President Donald Trump claimed in an interview with CBS News on Monday that the war with Iran is “very complete.”

“I think the war is very complete, pretty much,” the president told CBS News.

“They have no navy, no communications, they’ve got no air force. Their missiles are down to a scatter. Their drones are being blown up all over the place, including their manufacturing of drones. If you look, they have nothing left. There’s nothing left in a military sense.”

CBS also asked the president if he had a message for Iran’s new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei, and the president said, “I have no message for him. None, whatsoever.”

 
nycfan said:
"...President Donald Trump claimed in an interview with CBS News on Monday that the war with Iran is “very complete.”

“I think the war is very complete, pretty much,” the president told CBS News.

“They have no navy, no communications, they’ve got no air force. Their missiles are down to a scatter. Their drones are being blown up all over the place, including their manufacturing of drones. If you look, they have nothing left. There’s nothing left in a military sense.”

CBS also asked the president if he had a message for Iran’s new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei, and the president said, “I have no message for him. None, whatsoever.”

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What's the word I'm looking for?? Oh yeah, it's OBLITERATED!
 
CFordUNC said:


Lolololololol such a colossal coward in every possible way.

Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely hoping and cheering for a giant TACO this time as it's the best possible scenario. But it's hilarious how feeble this man is.
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Over/Under is 5.5 days for Trump to say the war is over. How are you betting?
 
ZenMode said:
Modified the wording to be more specific.
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Still taking the over, although the revised wording makes it a little closer.

The problem for Trump is that there is some additional military benefit to continued bombing, but there is very little political benefit. From a politics perspective, he has maxed out the "tough on Iran" support on Day 1. Bombing for another three weeks isn't going to get any additional support from those people.

But, if he takes out another girl's school or if gas prices continue to spike, he will keep losing moderates every day it continues. So the longer it goes, the less good it is for him. Given that Trump is far more interested in branding than actual results, it is hard to see how this goes on much longer.

Still, hard to see the military hawks or Bibi letting him shut it down in 5.5 days.
 
IMO even if (when) Trump wants to TACO, he may not have a choice in the matter. Iran has little incentive to do anything other than continue the status quo and encourage the conflict to continue longer. They certainly have a much higher tolerance and threshold than the United States can have. Sure, their civilians are suffering, and that’s not insignificant, but I think the Iranians see this current conflict as a very unique opportunity to ensure that the United States and Israel don’t make this stupid mistake ever again. I don’t know enough about what’s going on in Israel to comment on them, but it’s very clear that the Trump presidency in the United States is crumbling right before our eyes and Iran has no incentive to do anything that stops that. They have got us politically and economically by the balls, and if they are as intelligent and as strategic as they seem to be, they are aware of it.
 
Calheel said:
Still taking the over, although the revised wording makes it a little closer.

The problem for Trump is that there is some additional military benefit to continued bombing, but there is very little political benefit. From a politics perspective, he has maxed out the "tough on Iran" support on Day 1. Bombing for another three weeks isn't going to get any additional support from those people.

But, if he takes out another girl's school or if gas prices continue to spike, he will keep losing moderates every day it continues. So the longer it goes, the less good it is for him. Given that Trump is far more interested in branding than actual results, it is hard to see how this goes on much longer.

Still, hard to see the military hawks or Bibi letting him shut it down in 5.5 days.
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Eh, pretty sure the narrative is already set. People are connecting the dots. Tariffs, oligopoly, wars, sabotage of Obamacare -- they all fit together. They see Trump mocking their affordability concerns. I don't think it will matter much if gas prices settle down by fall. People already see Trump as the enemy of affordability, and by extension the GOP.

Not to mention there's the little problem of the tens of billions that Trump has already spent on this adventure.
 
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