Iran Catch-All | IRAN WAR

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So Trump is thinking about addressing the Nation and declaring this is over? What would he say about Gulf oil traffic and gas prices? Pretty sure Iran will be listening to any of his claims and will be motivated to torpedo them.

Don't know how much economic pressure Iran faces. They trade with Russia thru the Caspian Sea but they might be motivated to end this thing. On the other hand, I could see them start negotiating with the other Gulf countries before letting the Strait open. They might let a slow reopen happen, allowing freight traffic but no oil till Trump removes the aircraft carriers or something. I just can't believe considering Trump took their leader out that they are going to make it too easy on him.
 
superrific said:
Eh, pretty sure the narrative is already set. People are connecting the dots. Tariffs, oligopoly, wars, sabotage of Obamacare -- they all fit together. They see Trump mocking their affordability concerns. I don't think it will matter much if gas prices settle down by fall. People already see Trump as the enemy of affordability, and by extension the GOP.

Not to mention there's the little problem of the tens of billions that Trump has already spent on this adventure.
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All true. Much of the Iran problems and benefits are baked in at this point. But, the longer this goes on, the worse it becomes politically. Particularly gas prices.

The only way extended warfare would benefit Trump in any way would be for there to be a successful coup that results in a more moderate government and that seems extremely unlikely at this point.
 
If Trump does a full TACO after demanding unconditional surrender, I can see once the fleet is removed Iran having a huge, in the millions rally all shouting death to America and death to Trump just like they did back in 1979. Other words, just like they did to Carter they would be declaring victory. Wonder how this generation of Americans would react to that?
 
Calheel said:
All true. Much of the Iran problems and benefits are baked in at this point. But, the longer this goes on, the worse it becomes politically. Particularly gas prices.

The only way extended warfare would benefit Trump in any way would be for there to be a successful coup that results in a more moderate government and that seems extremely unlikely at this point.
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I'm not sure anyone could have done more to unite the factions in Iran than was done by this idiocy. I don't see a damned thing we're going to gain. We've sent Americans to their deaths, killed a lot of innocent civilians, spent a shitload of money and lost a lot of international goodwill. Can we say stupid and weak?
 
I was skeptical about this war ending in 4-5 weeks total but if that happens I’ll be happy to be wrong.
 
You know when a schoolyard bully picks a fight with a smaller kid and then the fight does not go at all like the bully expected and the bully quickly yells "TRUCE!" and tries to walk away with a some dignity and machismo left intact? And how sometimes the kid the bully was picking on decides he's not done embarrassing the bully yet?
 
You know things are going spectacularly humiliatingly poorly when even the two resident Trumpian asseaters on this board can’t even find the guts to come regale us with their expertise on geopolitics and international relations.
 
TangledUpInBlue06 said:
You know when a schoolyard bully picks a fight with a smaller kid and then the fight does not go at all like the bully expected and the bully quickly yells "TRUCE!" and tries to walk away with a some dignity and machismo left intact? And how sometimes the kid the bully was picking on decides he's not done embarrassing the bully yet?
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