Iran Catch-All | Protester Massacre? CBS reports 12,000+ killed

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"non-lethal" potentiqal responses by Iran
1) Announce military deal with Rissia including lease o molitary and haval base
2) Ditto Chine
3) Do partial blockade of Strait of Hormuz and demand Arab-Israel negotiations over status of West Bank and Palestinian state
4) Get China to half rare earth exports to US involving military uses such as F-35
 
RaiGuy said:
There it is. The only way you know to respond is with stupidity.
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I’m not going to argue the effectiveness of Israeli intelligence with you. It is widely accepted as the best in the world. Blowing up the pagers and phones might be the single biggest intelligence win in history. I get you are anti Israel and anti trump, but don’t act like this isn’t a huge win for both Israel and trump. Should bring about a quicker end to that war and fewer Palestinians dying.
 
CFordUNC said:
Easy for you to say, as a 60+ year old man who has never served and would never be sent to the frontlines in any potential imminent conflict now. In my home office I’ve got the flag that was draped over the casket of a first cousin of mine who was killed at Fallujah- my aunt and uncle couldn’t bear to have it in their house as a reminder of their 21-year-old being killed on some foreign desert in the Middle East. You’ve never chosen to make that kind of sacrifice, and fortunately for you at your age, you never will be asked to do so, so perhaps be a little less flippant about the ones who do have the bravery and courage to serve
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Duke Mu said:
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Nice CHOKE in the Finals!!

Trump and the far left both claimed Blinken, Austin, Biden, Harris were war mongers. How do you know they wouldn't have bombed the nuclear sites two days ago?

Let's keep in mind that Trump abandoned Syria during his first administration allowing ISIS, Assad, Russia extra life and allowed the Turks to start killing Kurds who had been protecting against Russian. Trump abandoned the Iran Nuclear deal. Trump increased the national debt by 25%.

I was a REPUBLICAN before Trump took the Elevator ride.! lol My family originally were Pubs from NY. We KNEW that Trump was a Crook with endless business failures. Remember, Trump has been claiming and posting about Peace for years.
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Damn EVERYONE claims to be a conservative on this Board prior to Trump. Biden/Blinken et al weren’t warmongers they were FECKLESS!
 
Callatoroy said:
Putin is happy because he didn’t want a nuked up Iran and Israel didn’t take out their oil fields so he can still get Iranian oil.
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Not quite. Putin may not want a nuclear armed Iran but clearly wasn’t too concerned given that Russia supplied Iran with uranium. And Russia doesn’t need Iranian oil. They are a net exporter of oil - the second biggest exporter in the world.
 
Callatoroy said:
I’m not going to argue the effectiveness of Israeli intelligence with you. It is widely accepted as the best in the world. Blowing up the pagers and phones might be the single biggest intelligence win in history. I get you are anti Israel and anti trump, but don’t act like this isn’t a huge win for both Israel and trump. Should bring about a quicker end to that war and fewer Palestinians dying.
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So, why should we believe them now when they have been lying about it for 30 years?
 
Duke Mu said:
Sounds like Biden responded. I don't see your question cited, so it's hard to know how direct and full the answer was.

You have no idea (and neither does Trump) how he would respond. I'd love to play some poker against MAGA types. It clears up why so many people have been taken by Carpetbaggers and snake oil salesmen in the 19th Century. Trump is FOS at all times.
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I’ll help you. Biden (or Jill) responded like a big vagina. You just don’t allow your interests to continue to be attacked and your feckless actions offer no deterrence. Iran had no respect for Biden. They didn’t fear him.
 
theel4life said:
The maga cult will defend anything Trump does.
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Indeed. And if Iran does retaliate somewhere down the line, is there any doubt that MAGAs will still vigorously defend Dear Leader's decision to bomb Iran and will somehow place the blame for the retaliation on Democrats and liberals? Hell, we see that happening right now with the political assassination thread regarding the political assassinations of MN Democratic legislative leaders - MAGA board posters there still refuse to even admit that the shooter was a Trumper, and keep posting crazy BS saying that Walz was somehow involved. They'll defend him to their last breath, no matter what.
 
RaiGuy said:
thegrayzone.com

Trump official to The Grayzone: CIA’s Ratcliffe acts as ‘Mossad stenographer’ on Iran - The Grayzone

A Trump official tells The Grayzone that Israel's Mossad is using CIA Director John Ratcliffe and US CENTCOM's Gen. Michael Kurilla to influence Trump with cooked intelligence on Iran's nuclear program. Inside the White House, dissenters have been isolated, setting the stage for a regime change...
thegrayzone.com thegrayzone.com
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Are you saying Iran wasn’t trying to enrich uranium and build a bomb?
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
You don’t give the intelligence community much credit. If you really believe they are as stupid as you describe, they should all be disbanded.
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They are just as good as they were when “they” said Sadam Hussain had WMDs. It’s not them it’s the leaders. We know how that turned out. The leaders lied because they wanted it to be true and acted on it. But at least those leaders under W were actually competent. Trumps appointees are anything but.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Indeed. And if Iran does retaliate somewhere down the line, is there any doubt that MAGAs will still vigorously defend Dear Leader's decision to bomb Iran and will somehow place the blame for the retaliation on Democrats and liberals? Hell, we see that happening right now with the political assassinations of MN Democratic leaders in their legislature - MAGA board posters there still refuse to even admit that the shooter was a Trumper, and keep posting crazy BS saying that Walz was somehow involved. They defend him to their last breath, no matter what.
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Are you saying trump shouldn’t have bombed Iran because Iran might retaliate?
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Indeed. And if Iran does retaliate somewhere down the line, is there any doubt that MAGAs will still vigorously defend Dear Leader's decision to bomb Iran and will somehow place the blame for the retaliation on Democrats and liberals? Hell, we see that happening right now with the political assassinations of MN Democratic leaders in their legislature - MAGA board posters there still refuse to even admit that the shooter was a Trumper, and keep posting crazy BS saying that Walz was somehow involved. They defend him to their last breath, no matter what.
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Near term, yes. Long term they will deny ever supporting this.

In both cases Democrats will be blamed.
 
Kingpin said:
They are just as good as they were when “they” said Sadam Hussain had WMDs. It’s not them it’s the leaders. We know how that turned out. The leaders lied because they wanted it to be true and acted on it. But at least those leaders under W were actually competent. Trumps appointees are anything but.
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Do you believe Iran had no ambitions of building a nuke
 
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