Israel Hamas War | Possible Ceasefire Deal between Israel & Hamas? / Ben Givr threatens to resign instead

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nycfan said:


Rabin is quite close to some in the Trump administration, too, including having previously written a glowing book about the Abraham Accords.

But no doubt that there needed to be a policy bridge with the new administration to get anything done.
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I am not a Trump fan but I bet this is true.
 
nycfan said:
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What a fucking asshole. I'm VERY happy this deal was reached, but I have no interest in assigning credit for it. For Trump to assume all of it in order to deprive Biden of any accolades for the work his team has been doing for months is just assholery at its finest. He’s a cretin of a human being, and that becomes clearer every day.
 
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Everyone knew trump would try to take credit.
But the time stamp on this deal is still under Biden’s admin watch.
Deal came through Qatar.
Some research may expose who was at the table with Qatar and the two sides.
Team trump or Biden’s admin working on this thing for forever?
But I doubt Elon and JD have spent time there since November. Also, if trump brokered this deal, he would have insisted it not be announced until after Jan 20. So I’m assigning credit to Biden admin.
Well done.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
As negotiators close in on a draft agreement, though, Israel faces internal pressure to scrap the deal. On Tuesday, Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir threatened to leave Netanyahu’s ruling coalition if the prime minister agrees to a cease-fire. He also urged far-right ally and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich to join him. (Smotrich has said that he will not leave the government despite calling the talks a “catastrophe” on Monday.)

Ben-Givr is a bloodthirsty ghoul.
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Best thing that could happen to Israel would be for those 2 to leave the government.
 
Great that a deal has been reached...but I'm already seeing the social media barrage of MAGA posts saying "see we told you he could do this. Next up Ukraine." It is going to be a very long 4 years.
 
This is what real leadership looks like, Pubs. Unlike your dickwad narcissist of a president.


President Joe Biden noted that his team and the incomding Trump administration’s spoke as “one team” in negotiating the ceasefire deal reached Wednesday as he thanked those involved with striking the high stakes deal between Israel and Hamas.

“This deal was developed and negotiated under my administration, but its terms will be implemented for the most part by the next administration,” Biden said, taking care to note the work done by the incoming administration under President-elect Donald Trump.

“In these past few days, we’ve been speaking as one team,” Biden said. “This has been a time of real turmoil in the Middle East, but as I prepare to leave office, our friends are strong, our enemies are weak, and those are genuine opportunities for a new future.”

CNN reported that alongside Biden’s top Middle East envoy Brett McGurk, Steve Witkoff, the Middle East envoy appointed by Trump, was present in the final stretch of the negotiations — a development that Biden administration officials said was critical in bringing the negotiations over the finish line.
 
lawtig02 said:
This is what real leadership looks like, Pubs. Unlike your dickwad narcissist of a president.


President Joe Biden noted that his team and the incomding Trump administration’s spoke as “one team” in negotiating the ceasefire deal reached Wednesday as he thanked those involved with striking the high stakes deal between Israel and Hamas.

“This deal was developed and negotiated under my administration, but its terms will be implemented for the most part by the next administration,” Biden said, taking care to note the work done by the incoming administration under President-elect Donald Trump.

“In these past few days, we’ve been speaking as one team,” Biden said. “This has been a time of real turmoil in the Middle East, but as I prepare to leave office, our friends are strong, our enemies are weak, and those are genuine opportunities for a new future.”

CNN reported that alongside Biden’s top Middle East envoy Brett McGurk, Steve Witkoff, the Middle East envoy appointed by Trump, was present in the final stretch of the negotiations — a development that Biden administration officials said was critical in bringing the negotiations over the finish line.
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I haven't heard anyone called a dickwad in a long time :ROFLMAO:

A quick search of the site shows that every usage (3) have been by you.
 
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ZenMode said:
I haven't heard anyone called a dickwad in a long time :ROFLMAO:

A quick search of the site shows that every usage (3) have been by you.
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If I used that term to describe anyone other than Trump, then I apologize to that person. Trump can go fuck a donkey before I'll apologize to him.
 
RaiGuy said:
He lost relatives that were killed when Israel dropped a bomb on the church they were sheltering in.
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The church that was alleged to have been bombed, Church of Saint Porphyrios, wasn't actually hit. It was a building within the church compound. The church is fine and functional. They posted live FB video just a couple days ago.

apnews.com

A medieval church in Gaza was not razed by Israeli bombing, contrary to online posts

As the Israel-Hamas war enters its sixth day, posts circulating on social media are falsely claiming that a holy Christian site has become a casualty in the conflict.
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superrific said:
The timing of the cease fire was determined by the fall of Assad, not Biden or Trump. Iran can't support Hamas any more, and Hezbollah needs to regroup, and so Hamas is left dangling.
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Please keep posting this.

If only the MSM and the pundits would acknowledge this. Neither Biden or Trump had anything to do with this.
 
ZenMode said:
The church that was alleged to have been bombed, Church of Saint Porphyrios, wasn't actually hit. It was a building within the church compound. The church is fine and functional. They posted live FB video just a couple days ago.

apnews.com

A medieval church in Gaza was not razed by Israeli bombing, contrary to online posts

As the Israel-Hamas war enters its sixth day, posts circulating on social media are falsely claiming that a holy Christian site has become a casualty in the conflict.
apnews.com apnews.com
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Doesn't the editor's note to the article you linked contradict your conclusion?

Editor’s Note: This fact check was published Oct. 12, 2023. A week later on Thursday, Oct. 19, an airstrike toppled a wall at the Greek Orthodox Church of Saint Porphyrios causing serious damage and death.


And honestly, what is the difference between Amash losing relatives to an Israeli airstrike that hit the church versus an Israeli airstrike that hit a building in the church compound? Sounds like a distinction without a difference.
 
superrific said:
The timing of the cease fire was determined by the fall of Assad, not Biden or Trump. Iran can't support Hamas any more, and Hezbollah needs to regroup, and so Hamas is left dangling.
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And the fact that Assad was taken out because Russia couldn't prop him up because of their war with Ukraine.
 
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