Rai,
I appreciate and respect your posts.
You’re slamming your head into a wall responding to the troll.
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I appreciate and respect your posts.
You’re slamming your head into a wall responding to the troll.
No, it literally doesn't. Yes, Hamas intended to kill those folks and that was fucking evil. But they have not continued to do so. So we have a very simple math problem. 1100 plus innocent Israeli dead versus 50000 plus innocent Palestinian dead. There is no comparison. And before you say, well people die in war. There have been very severe critiques of Israeli targeting techniques (by US Military targeters) that state that their use of AI to pick targets and their willingness to risk collateral damage numbers that far exceed what the US military is willing to risk. The civilian casualty rates in this war are far in excess of the wars that have come before it.
They haven’t continued to do so because they have been physically unable to do so. That’s not charity on Hamas’s part. They’d kill every single Israeli if they could.
Yes, but they haven't. I fully concede that this is not charity. But Hamas does not equal the Palestinian people.
And Israel has continued to kill civilians.. The numbers of deaths are horribly disproportionate.
I know - you're right. But damnit, I just can't help myself sometimes. There are fleeting moments when he seems to be willing to listen to reason.
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I agree that there's no comparison if you're talking about gross numbers. My point always that Hamas was able to kill over 100 per hour with minimal weapons. Israel, with legit military weapons, capable of killing hundreds at at time, is only killing 100 per DAY. Hamas - 100 per hour. Israel 100 per day. And Gaza is a very densely populated area. 15k per square mile. With Israel's weapons, the dense population AND the fact that civilians are being used as human shields, killing 100 per day, on average, is pretty amazing and doesn't happen by chance.
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Again, no, it is not amazing. They could be prosecuting this war according to US military guidelines and be killing FAR fewer civilians.
Your argument is tantamount to: the LAPD kills far fewer civilians in accidental crossfire shootings per day than the gangs kill on purpose per day, so we should celebrate! It is apples to oranges.
I hold Israel to a much higher standard than Hamas, in the same way that I would hold the US to a much higher standard than any terrorists they might be fighting, in the same way that I hold the Police to a higher standard than criminals.
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That’s in part why he’s become the most successful troll on the board. He knows how to keep fish on the line with juuuust enough “reasonableness” to cover for the bigotry, whataboutism, and fascist apologia. In truth, he’s maga with decent grammar and vocabulary. He'll typically respond to a post like this one with another form of troll along the lines of "free-thinking" pablum or self-victimization trope or "EcHO ChamBer" spinal reflex. It's all bullshit.
I mean, as you know, right now he's arguing the rate of a single day of slaughter is equivalent to, or worse, than more than 50k civilians slaughtered, just because the 50k happened over a couple of years. That's not logical, moral, nor good faith.
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Israeli soldiers executed a bunch of aid workers one by one.
www.theguardian.com
According to the UN humanitarian affairs office (Ocha), the Palestinian Red Crescent (PRCS) and civil defence workers were on a mission to rescue colleagues who had been shot at earlier in the day, when their clearly marked vehicles came under heavy Israeli fire in Rafah city’s Tel al-Sultan district. A Red Crescent official in Gaza said that there was evidence of at least one person being detained and killed, as the body of one of the dead had been found with his hands tied.
The shootings happened on 23 March, one day into the renewed Israeli offensive in the area close to the Egyptian border. Another Red Crescent worker on the mission is reported missing.
“Seven days ago, civil defence and PRCS ambulances arrived at the scene,” the head of Ocha in Palestine, Jonathan Whittall, said in a video statement. “One by one, [the paramedics and civil defense workers] were hit, they were struck. Their bodies were gathered and buried in this mass grave.
Israel killed 15 Palestinian paramedics and rescue workers one by one, says UN
Workers on a mission to help colleagues were buried in mass grave in southern Gaza, says humanitarian office
According to the UN humanitarian affairs office (Ocha), the Palestinian Red Crescent (PRCS) and civil defence workers were on a mission to rescue colleagues who had been shot at earlier in the day, when their clearly marked vehicles came under heavy Israeli fire in Rafah city’s Tel al-Sultan district. A Red Crescent official in Gaza said that there was evidence of at least one person being detained and killed, as the body of one of the dead had been found with his hands tied.
The shootings happened on 23 March, one day into the renewed Israeli offensive in the area close to the Egyptian border. Another Red Crescent worker on the mission is reported missing.
“Seven days ago, civil defence and PRCS ambulances arrived at the scene,” the head of Ocha in Palestine, Jonathan Whittall, said in a video statement. “One by one, [the paramedics and civil defense workers] were hit, they were struck. Their bodies were gathered and buried in this mass grave.
Oh…..that poast is gonna have ICE and CBP on your front stoop soon.Israeli soldiers executed a bunch of aid workers one by one.
Israel killed 15 Palestinian paramedics and rescue workers one by one, says UN
Workers on a mission to help colleagues were buried in mass grave in southern Gaza, says humanitarian office
According to the UN humanitarian affairs office (Ocha), the Palestinian Red Crescent (PRCS) and civil defence workers were on a mission to rescue colleagues who had been shot at earlier in the day, when their clearly marked vehicles came under heavy Israeli fire in Rafah city’s Tel al-Sultan district. A Red Crescent official in Gaza said that there was evidence of at least one person being detained and killed, as the body of one of the dead had been found with his hands tied.
The shootings happened on 23 March, one day into the renewed Israeli offensive in the area close to the Egyptian border. Another Red Crescent worker on the mission is reported missing.
“Seven days ago, civil defence and PRCS ambulances arrived at the scene,” the head of Ocha in Palestine, Jonathan Whittall, said in a video statement. “One by one, [the paramedics and civil defense workers] were hit, they were struck. Their bodies were gathered and buried in this mass grave.
Oh…..wait…..you live in Canada?
Nevermind. Although, I wouldn’t return to the US between now and 1/20/29.
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oh, they must be more of those "bad apple" soldiersIsraeli soldiers executed a bunch of aid workers one by one.
Israel killed 15 Palestinian paramedics and rescue workers one by one, says UN
Workers on a mission to help colleagues were buried in mass grave in southern Gaza, says humanitarian office
According to the UN humanitarian affairs office (Ocha), the Palestinian Red Crescent (PRCS) and civil defence workers were on a mission to rescue colleagues who had been shot at earlier in the day, when their clearly marked vehicles came under heavy Israeli fire in Rafah city’s Tel al-Sultan district. A Red Crescent official in Gaza said that there was evidence of at least one person being detained and killed, as the body of one of the dead had been found with his hands tied.
The shootings happened on 23 March, one day into the renewed Israeli offensive in the area close to the Egyptian border. Another Red Crescent worker on the mission is reported missing.
“Seven days ago, civil defence and PRCS ambulances arrived at the scene,” the head of Ocha in Palestine, Jonathan Whittall, said in a video statement. “One by one, [the paramedics and civil defense workers] were hit, they were struck. Their bodies were gathered and buried in this mass grave.
Israeli soldiers executed a bunch of aid workers one by one.
Israel killed 15 Palestinian paramedics and rescue workers one by one, says UN
Workers on a mission to help colleagues were buried in mass grave in southern Gaza, says humanitarian office
According to the UN humanitarian affairs office (Ocha), the Palestinian Red Crescent (PRCS) and civil defence workers were on a mission to rescue colleagues who had been shot at earlier in the day, when their clearly marked vehicles came under heavy Israeli fire in Rafah city’s Tel al-Sultan district. A Red Crescent official in Gaza said that there was evidence of at least one person being detained and killed, as the body of one of the dead had been found with his hands tied.
The shootings happened on 23 March, one day into the renewed Israeli offensive in the area close to the Egyptian border. Another Red Crescent worker on the mission is reported missing.
“Seven days ago, civil defence and PRCS ambulances arrived at the scene,” the head of Ocha in Palestine, Jonathan Whittall, said in a video statement. “One by one, [the paramedics and civil defense workers] were hit, they were struck. Their bodies were gathered and buried in this mass grave.
This is some stuff to actually be mad about.....not conspiracy theories started because PIJ rocketed their own hospital early in the war.
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Does it occur to you that maybe it's all of a piece? Maybe the country lying about all the violence it is committing against Palestinians is lying about other things? RaiGuy isn't even talking about that hospital and hasn't been for a year.