Israel launches attack on Iran | US bombs Iran nuke sites

[theel4life]

Didn’t age well.

Agree

 

[an0maly]

From a 2019 essay in Foreign Affairs (I see nothing to adjust in these insights now):

The United States might instead try to engineer the collapse of the Islamic Republic without invading, as it tried in Iraq in the 1990s. But unlike many Middle Eastern countries that have grown unstable in recent years, Iran is not an artificial creation of European colonialism but a millennia-old civilization whose nationalism runs deep. Iranians are not likely to respond to a major war with the United States by blaming their own leadership and trying to overthrow it. Even if they did, the most likely result would be a transition from clerical rule to a military dictatorship headed by the powerful Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. In the worst case, internal collapse would lead to civil war, just as it has with several of Iran’s neighbors, potentially creating terrorist safe havens and enormous refugee flows.


Even short of such worst-case scenarios, any war with Iran would tie down the United States in yet another Middle Eastern conflict for years to come. The war and its aftermath would likely cost hundreds of billions of dollars and hobble not just Trump but future U.S. presidents. Such a commitment would mean the end of the United States’ purported shift to great-power competition with Russia and China.

Ilan Goldenberg

en.majalla.com

 

[dukeman92]

I switched to ESPN as soon as Hegseth started speaking.

I changed the channel as soon as he answered a reporter’s question with “the previous administration”

They can’t get Biden out of their mouth.

 

[BillOfRights]

 

[lawtig02]

Caine maybe could have mentioned that to Trump before he shot off last night?

 

[nycfan]

Caine maybe could have mentioned that to Trump before he shot off last night?

He probably did. It wouldn't have impacted what Trump said.

 

[nycfan]

 

[BillOfRights]

Didn’t age well.

 

[dukeman92]

Sooooo none.

 

[Batt Boy]

not hit and seems Russians are still there operating today

 

[BillOfRights]

 

[lawtig02]

 

[BillOfRights]

 

[BillOfRights]

 

[lawtig02]

Maybe we should start a different thread for the political implications but I’m interested to see the initial polls in a couple of days. Other than brain dead lemmings like Ram and calla, this seems to be deeply unpopular on both ends of the spectrum. I’m also interested to see what impact this has on the Joe Rogans, Andrew Schultzes, etc. They’ve been pretty adamantly anti-foreign war, and if they start trashing Trump for this, it could have a big impact on the youth vote in the midterms.

 

[BillOfRights]

 

[HandsonFire]

If Iran blockades or mines the Straits of Hormuz, the US is hit with $6/gal gas prices.

Oil Prices Poised to Soar After U.S. Attacks Iran Facilities | OilPrice.com

The United States launched targeted strikes on three Iranian nuclear facilities, escalating Middle East tensions, prompting fears of soaring oil prices and drawing sharp reactions globally.

oilprice.com

Am I the only one that thinks the US military would annihilate any attempts by Iran to block the Strait? They sure couldn’t stop Israel from invading their airspace at will, why is the Strait any different?

 

[BillOfRights]

 

[nycfan]

 

[lawtig02]

Am I the only one that thinks the US military would annihilate any attempts by Iran to block the Strait? They sure couldn’t stop Israel from invading their airspace at will, why is the Strait any different?

That would be extraordinarily escalating even over what happened last night. If we take out Iran’s “navy,” we’re undoubtedly in a full-scale war.