Israel launches attack on Iran

[nycfan]

 

[ZenMode]

If they have nothing then what was Israel so afraid of that they had to preemptively attack?

Because they were close to having nukes, obviously.

 

[Duke Mu]

I said sports and whether kids under 18 get hormone therapy.

That's a medical decision with physicians and parents essential.

There are less than 10 trans athletes at the HS level in the US. Any male through puberty should not compete with females in any sport where sex/gender is split. There can be a separate Trans category for those interested. It's a stupid political question...but Americans can be pretty stupid and/or gaslighted...and it was an essential part of the campaign narrative from the GQP side.

 

[nycfan]

 

[Carolina Fever]

 

[4thgenheel]

 

[nycfan]

 

[ZenMode]

Pretty much "day-in-the-life" stuff for Israelis. 300 missles were shot from Gaza at Israel last year

 

[Centerpiece]

Reuters don't lie

 

[RaiGuy]

Where’s the outrage about Israel using human shields?

 

[1moretimeagain]

They were illegally building nukes. Once they have nukes then they no longer have nothing.

Iran’s nuclear program has always reminded me of Iraq’s WMD program.

 

[Lando]

This a crock.

The Middle Eastern countries kill people who are gay. No one is advocating for death for gays here.

You bring up trans. The hot button issues in American now are two things. Shoukd transgender kids participate in sports against different biological genders and should teenagers start to get hormone therapy. Again - not really a gay thing.

The treatment of women isn’t on the same planet. Women are covered, often not allowed to be educated, have no rights, etc. America still has a long way to go but women have never had it better. Abortion is a challenge currently but that is not always broken down female-male anyway.

So, exactly my point.

 

[p5mmr9]

I understand the nature of those things. I also understand that we can purchase oil from the Middle East without meddling politically every 5 minutes and we can simultaneously engage every possible other source of energy to limit our exposure to Mid East dealings.

The US economy fell into a recession, we had gas shortages and rationing, and a President basically lost an election because of oil supply issues in the Middle East in the 1970s. It's naive to think "we can purchase oil from the Middle East without meddling politically" when the supply of oil is so critically important to our economy.

 

[wmheel1287]

The US economy fell into a recession, we had gas shortages and rationing, and a President basically lost an election because of oil supply issues in the Middle East in the 1970s. It's naive to think "we can purchase oil from the Middle East without meddling politically" when the supply of oil is so critically important to our economy.

The oil production climates of the 2 time periods are not remotely comparable. The US was almost entirely dependent on imports of oil from the ME by the late 1970s. We are now a net exporter. It would be horribly expensive but we could survive without middle eastern oil today.

 

[05C40]

Molestation is the red herring that the right likes to tie to the trans sports and bathroom issues.

If molestation was actually an issue with the right, then our prisons would be full of right-wing pastors and "youth" ministers.

 

[p5mmr9]

The oil production climates of the 2 time periods are not remotely comparable. The US was almost entirely dependent on imports of oil from the ME by the late 1970s. We are now a net exporter. It would be horribly expensive but we could survive without middle eastern oil today.

You basically contradict yourself with your last sentence. And regardless, as you can see from the price of oil today just based on Israel and Iran lobbing missiles at each other - what happens in the Middle East still greatly impacts the supply and price of oil. And as I note - people of power can lose power over the supply and price of oil.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Iran’s nuclear program has always reminded me of Iraq’s WMD program.

There is a lot more evidence of Iran’s nuke program than there was of Iraq’s WMDs. No one credible is claiming that Iran is NOT making nukes.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Where’s the outrage about Israel using human shields?

Having a clearly marked and designated military building in an urban area is nowhere near equivalent to building terror tunnels under hospitals and launching rockets from schools.

 

[Callatoroy]

True, but one would think that with all the knowledge we have at this point in history that we would start to realize that there are better ways.

We can actually all live and not fight, if we could get out leaders and governments to work together.

Agree with your sentiment but you are thinking rationally. Try reasoning with someone who thinks totally irrationally. You can’t comprehend the way they think.

 

[Callatoroy]

Where’s the outrage about Israel using human shields?

Hahahahahahaha. What an idiot. The human shield only applies if those attacking pause out of fear of collateral damage. Nobody attacking Israel would give two shits about collateral damage. In fact that would get them bonus points. You and Rashida Tlaib make a great duo.