JD Vance Catch-all

[Ddseddse]

Honest question, is JD worse at retail politics than Ted?

I can’t recall a candidate for pres/vp with this level of clumsiness in routine social interactions.

Tough question. I have Cruz leading in the "his face makes me want punch him" category, but Vance has a lead in the "alien pod person" category.

 

[Rock]

 

[JD Heel]

I'm not fully convinced Vance is an actual human. I think he's some type of Republican AI experiment - probably thought up by the Project 2025 braintrust.

 

[nycfan]

 

[Zoo_View]

Honest question, is JD worse at retail politics than Ted?

I can’t recall a candidate for pres/vp with this level of clumsiness in routine social interactions.

JD Vance makes John Kerry seem like a natural retail politician. Mike Dukakis doesn't seem awkward in comparison.

 

[Zoo_View]

Desantis

DeSantis doesn't count - he was not his party's nominee for either office.

 

[lawtig02]

There have been worse politicians, but Vance may have the worst sense of humor of any politician I can remember.

 

[haroldminer]

How do people like this get elected to any office?

I simply do not understand.

 

[nycfan]

How do people like this get elected to any office?

I simply do not understand.

He struggled (relative to other Republicans), with Trump's endorsement, in OHIO. DeWine won in the same election year 63-37 (other two main state-wide races were 60-40 in favor of the GOP candidates); Vance won (over a strong candidate in Tim Ryan) 53-47.

 

[aGDevil2k]

We need the dead emoji

 

[Rock]

 

[farce©]

How do people like this get elected to any office?

I simply do not understand.

With a shitload of Peter Thiel’s money. Chuck Schumer shit on Tim Ryan because he didn’t think they could win OH so he diverted the DSCC money elsewhere.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Dude gives zero effs about connecting with normal people (of which he was one).

Given that one of Trump's sons apparently had a lot to do with Dear Leader choosing Vance, I'm betting that they told Dad that Vance would really connect with ordinary white working-class folks that make up most of Trump's base. Except that as you said, Vance has spent most of his adult life trying to get as far away from those types of people as possible. He may have a house in Ohio for residential/voting purposes, but he really lives in an affluent, blue-voting DC suburb.

 

[Rock]

Given that one of Trump's sons apparently had a lot to do with Dear Leader choosing Vance, I'm betting that they told Dad that Vance would really connect with ordinary white working-class folks that make up most of Trump's base. Except that as you said, Vance has spent most of his adult life trying to get as far away from those types of people as possible. He may have a house in Ohio for residential/voting purposes, but he really lives in an affluent, blue-voting DC suburb.

Fingers crossed that Trump loses the election, the aftermath and people pointing fingers, diet spilled is going to be epic as the kids say.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

With a shitload of Peter Thiel’s money. Chuck Schumer shit on Tim Ryan because he didn’t think they could win OH so he diverted the DSCC money elsewhere.

Ah, yet another of Schumer's brilliant campaign decisions over the years. Supporting Cunningham over Jackson in NC in 2020 and Beasley over Jackson in NC in 2022 are just two local examples.

 

[Geisterfahrer]

Ah, yet another of Schumer's brilliant campaign decisions over the years. Supporting Cunningham over Jackson in NC in 2020 and Beasley over Jackson in NC in 2022 are just two local examples.

Schumer’s an institutionalist. Expecting him to have chosen differently is wishful thinking.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Schumer’s an institutionalist. Expecting him to have chosen differently is wishful thinking.

Perhaps, but he has still made some truly awful decisions on which Senate candidates to support in various states over the years.

 

[Geisterfahrer]

Perhaps, but he has still made some truly awful decisions on which Senate candidates to support in various states over the years.

and yet they have improbably held the Senate through Biden’s term. Credit where it’s due.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

and yet they have improbably held the Senate through Biden’s term. Credit where it’s due.

Yes, but that margin might be even greater had he chosen more wisely in some of these races. Not a real fan, but not a big issue for me so I'll let it drop - much rather focus on the great vibes coming from the DNC this week

 

[superrific]

Ah, yet another of Schumer's brilliant campaign decisions over the years. Supporting Cunningham over Jackson in NC in 2020 and Beasley over Jackson in NC in 2022 are just two local examples.

The choice of Beasley made sense in early 2022. Everyone was afraid of a red wave. He didn't want to waste Jeff Jackson on a hopeless cause. Remember -- the election was looking VERY bleak until Dobbs came down in the summer.