IIRC, the young woman in question was a contestant in the Miss Teen USA Pagent from South Carolina. And the posters on which ever predecessor board I was on then did not exactly cover themselves in glory in critiquing her performance or the state she was representing. And for years thereafter, her photo, the same one J. D. Vance used, was used as a meme to ridicule someone for making a stupid post. Not condoning what Vance did or his refusal to apologize, but lets also remember what our group did at the time.