JD Vance Catch-all
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Not that I want to watch, but it would be funny to see white nationalist Laura Ingraham shovel Vance's BS on Faux News. She is single and childless.
Mulberry Heel
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The number of ambitious career women (single or not) in high conservative political and media circles is impressive. That many of the male politicians they support are publicly in favor of women like them quitting said careers, getting hitched, and focusing on staying at home and having kids is one of those rich ironies of modern Trump Republican politics.
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Watching JD become a punching bag literally overnight. It’s poetic.
And people thought his veteran status would save him.
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Can't decide whether Vance's fav Paul Anka tune would be 1) I'm just a La-Z Boy or 2) You're Havin' My Baby. Probably #1 for his youth and the latter for his current misogny.
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Trump/Vance, the Daddy Issues ticket.
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Gift link: https://wapo.st/3M34bJ3
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Until the very end, some people close to Donald Trump tried to talk the former president out of picking Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) as his running mate.
Aboard Trump’s plane en route to Milwaukee for the Republican National Convention, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) argued that Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) would be better than the untested Vance because the Cuban American senator might attract more votes in battleground states. He tried to recruit others on Trump’s plane to support his position, according to people with knowledge of the discussions.
Another adviser argued in a phone call a couple of days earlier that Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) or Rubio would be a better choice because of Vance’s previous comments opposing abortion, asking Trump how he would defend some of the senator’s positions that seemed further to the right than his.
… Trump listened as each person made their case, but they said the former president said his gut had been with Vance for many weeks, if not months — liking his Rust Belt upbringing, foreign and economic policy positions, pugnacious TV appearances, and academic pedigree. Vance had influential backers, including Donald Trump Jr. and tech billionaires. …”
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Until the very end, some people close to Donald Trump tried to talk the former president out of picking Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) as his running mate.
Aboard Trump’s plane en route to Milwaukee for the Republican National Convention, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) argued that Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) would be better than the untested Vance because the Cuban American senator might attract more votes in battleground states. He tried to recruit others on Trump’s plane to support his position, according to people with knowledge of the discussions.
Another adviser argued in a phone call a couple of days earlier that Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin (R) or Rubio would be a better choice because of Vance’s previous comments opposing abortion, asking Trump how he would defend some of the senator’s positions that seemed further to the right than his.
… Trump listened as each person made their case, but they said the former president said his gut had been with Vance for many weeks, if not months — liking his Rust Belt upbringing, foreign and economic policy positions, pugnacious TV appearances, and academic pedigree. Vance had influential backers, including Donald Trump Jr. and tech billionaires. …”
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Why is JD Vance sharing a split screen with Lucius Malfoy? JFC he has bad instincts!
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I thought this was going to be an editorial by Vance, but no, WSJ takes it upon themselves to swoop in to use an April interview with Vance to re-frame the cat lady comments into a Republican talking point.
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After joining the Senate last year, Vance became one of the most outspoken lawmakers about the decline in U.S. fertility. The total fertility rate—a snapshot of how many children a woman is expected to bear over her lifetime—fell to 1.62 last year, provisional government figures show, the lowest on record, and well below the 2.1 replacement rate needed to keep population steady, absent immigration.
The issue has long been on Vance’s mind.
… [after high cost of parenthood and social isolation/not dating enough] Vance said lower fertility might also be the result of less patriotism. In Israel, which has relatively high fertility, “there’s still a fundamental sense that they love their country, they want their country to keep going. America was always considered by our European friends to be kind of jingoistic back in the 1990s and 2000s. We had pretty healthy fertility rates back then. Now that we’re a little bit more like our European counterparts, much less sort of innately patriotic than we were 20, 30 years ago, our fertility rates have declined.”
… Vance cited several negative consequences to low birthrates.
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“If you have kids you’re probably a little bit more willing to take on risk and you’re probably a little bit less willing to do it if you don’t have family,” he said. “There’s all of these very weird and totally underappreciated ways in which it makes our society worse off.”
Vance also said that, while he is strongly antiabortion, that is unrelated to his concerns about fertility, and he doesn’t think access to the procedure is a major cause of declining U.S. fertility, given that other countries with more restrictive abortion laws are seeing sharper declines in childbearing. “I think there is some connection but I think it’s pretty weak,” he said.
… While Vance has studied pronatalist policies in countries including South Korea, France, Hungary and Japan, he said hasn’t yet seen any clear solution to falling fertility. “I’m fascinated by Hungary…because they’re aggressively trying a lot of different things. And I think some of it’s working.” The U.S. should look at lowering income-tax rates on women who have multiple children as Hungary has done, he said.
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Greater immigration wasn’t the solution to lower birthrates, Vance said in the April interview with the Journal. One reason is that immigrants’ own fertility tends to resemble that of the native-born. Another is that once the share of a country’s foreign-born population becomes greater than 15%, he said, it spawns a backlash and social division, and also makes assimilation more difficult, he said.
“It’s like the difference between having your own family over for dinner and having strangers come over for dinner,” Vance said.
“It’s nice to have new people come over for dinner. But you need to have some core for other people to assimilate into or I think it totally transforms the nature of your society.” “
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After joining the Senate last year, Vance became one of the most outspoken lawmakers about the decline in U.S. fertility. The total fertility rate—a snapshot of how many children a woman is expected to bear over her lifetime—fell to 1.62 last year, provisional government figures show, the lowest on record, and well below the 2.1 replacement rate needed to keep population steady, absent immigration.
The issue has long been on Vance’s mind.
… [after high cost of parenthood and social isolation/not dating enough] Vance said lower fertility might also be the result of less patriotism. In Israel, which has relatively high fertility, “there’s still a fundamental sense that they love their country, they want their country to keep going. America was always considered by our European friends to be kind of jingoistic back in the 1990s and 2000s. We had pretty healthy fertility rates back then. Now that we’re a little bit more like our European counterparts, much less sort of innately patriotic than we were 20, 30 years ago, our fertility rates have declined.”
… Vance cited several negative consequences to low birthrates.
…
“If you have kids you’re probably a little bit more willing to take on risk and you’re probably a little bit less willing to do it if you don’t have family,” he said. “There’s all of these very weird and totally underappreciated ways in which it makes our society worse off.”
Vance also said that, while he is strongly antiabortion, that is unrelated to his concerns about fertility, and he doesn’t think access to the procedure is a major cause of declining U.S. fertility, given that other countries with more restrictive abortion laws are seeing sharper declines in childbearing. “I think there is some connection but I think it’s pretty weak,” he said.
… While Vance has studied pronatalist policies in countries including South Korea, France, Hungary and Japan, he said hasn’t yet seen any clear solution to falling fertility. “I’m fascinated by Hungary…because they’re aggressively trying a lot of different things. And I think some of it’s working.” The U.S. should look at lowering income-tax rates on women who have multiple children as Hungary has done, he said.
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Greater immigration wasn’t the solution to lower birthrates, Vance said in the April interview with the Journal. One reason is that immigrants’ own fertility tends to resemble that of the native-born. Another is that once the share of a country’s foreign-born population becomes greater than 15%, he said, it spawns a backlash and social division, and also makes assimilation more difficult, he said.
“It’s like the difference between having your own family over for dinner and having strangers come over for dinner,” Vance said.
“It’s nice to have new people come over for dinner. But you need to have some core for other people to assimilate into or I think it totally transforms the nature of your society.” “
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On Hungary’s birthrate increase policies (from 2023):
“… The parade opened the third, and final, day of the Budapest Demographic Summit — Viktor Orbán's biannual get-together of right-wing thought leaders who gathered to discuss Europe's declining population and falling birth rates.
… the family festival, which featured face painting, carnival games, and a petting zoo, cut a sharp contrast with the siege mentality that pervaded the gathering of politicians and conservative luminaries over the previous two days.
“We live in an era where everything that defines us is under attack,” said Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, who channeled the spirit of the summit in an early keynote speech.
“In our view, demography is not just another of the main issues of our nation. It is the issue on which our nation’s future depends,” she said.
As other speakers took to the stage, the list of enemies of the family took on a distinct culture wars flavor. There were the usual suspects: Liberalism, feminism, Marxism; but also smartphones and sex-ed. Woke banking featured in a diatribe from Australian preacher Nick Vujicic, while Hungarian Prime Minister Orbán decried climate change panicas the reason people were having fewer babies.
And there were rallying calls for traditional, married, preferably heterosexual, family units.
“The proper encapsulating structure around the infant are united and combined parents, man and woman," said Canadian psychologist and polemicist Jordan Peterson as he paced up and down the stage in the Budapest Fine Arts Museum's elegant Renaissance Hall. "All alternatives to that are worse … Single people, divorced people, gay people, deviate from that,” he said.
Andreas Kinneging, professor of philosophy at the University of Leiden, continued in the same vein.
“Our task is to figure out what is the role of men and what is the role for women, and which roles best correspond to their respective nature,” said Kinneging, before suggesting his own answer to the question to a taken aback female moderator: “One of them works and one of them takes care of the children.”
Occasionally, the conference strayed onto more substantive territory.…But these moments were few and far between. …”
www.politico.eu
“… The parade opened the third, and final, day of the Budapest Demographic Summit — Viktor Orbán's biannual get-together of right-wing thought leaders who gathered to discuss Europe's declining population and falling birth rates.
… the family festival, which featured face painting, carnival games, and a petting zoo, cut a sharp contrast with the siege mentality that pervaded the gathering of politicians and conservative luminaries over the previous two days.
“We live in an era where everything that defines us is under attack,” said Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, who channeled the spirit of the summit in an early keynote speech.
“In our view, demography is not just another of the main issues of our nation. It is the issue on which our nation’s future depends,” she said.
As other speakers took to the stage, the list of enemies of the family took on a distinct culture wars flavor. There were the usual suspects: Liberalism, feminism, Marxism; but also smartphones and sex-ed. Woke banking featured in a diatribe from Australian preacher Nick Vujicic, while Hungarian Prime Minister Orbán decried climate change panicas the reason people were having fewer babies.
And there were rallying calls for traditional, married, preferably heterosexual, family units.
“The proper encapsulating structure around the infant are united and combined parents, man and woman," said Canadian psychologist and polemicist Jordan Peterson as he paced up and down the stage in the Budapest Fine Arts Museum's elegant Renaissance Hall. "All alternatives to that are worse … Single people, divorced people, gay people, deviate from that,” he said.
Andreas Kinneging, professor of philosophy at the University of Leiden, continued in the same vein.
“Our task is to figure out what is the role of men and what is the role for women, and which roles best correspond to their respective nature,” said Kinneging, before suggesting his own answer to the question to a taken aback female moderator: “One of them works and one of them takes care of the children.”
Occasionally, the conference strayed onto more substantive territory.…But these moments were few and far between. …”
Hungary’s baby-making summit dominated by paranoia, not policy
Culture wars and ethnic grievances took the place of a debate on what really moves birth rates.
www.politico.eu
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Oh, so he's a deep thinking philosopher focused on the macro socio-economic impacts of a failing fecundity rate in a world already overburdened with high carbon footprint babies from 1st world societies.
I thought he just hated cats.
And Democrats. Doesn't seem to care about Republicans without kids.