JD Vance Catch-all

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On paper at least, Hungary’s results in raising its fertility rate are impressive, and could serve as a lesson for others. The country plows about 5 percent of its GDP into policies to encourage family formation, including tax breaks and low-interest loans for families with children, and free in vitro fertilization (IVF) treatment. Since 2010, when Orbán took power, Hungary’s fertility rate has risen by about 25 percent, going from the lowest in the EU to a bit above the bloc’s average of 1.5 births per woman.

But the actual role of the Hungarian government’s policies in driving this change is an open question. The country was one of the hardest hit by the financial crisis, which may have had a role in depressing births in the period immediately before and after Orbán took power. Furthermore, other countries in the neighborhood have seen similar recoveries, pointing to what may be a regional trend rather than the success of special efforts on the part of the Hungarian government.

Recent data shows fertility rates in Hungary plateauing, or even dipping. That could be a temporary blip. But if it is sustained it will put out of reach Orbán's goal of reaching 2.1 births per woman by 2030, the magic number needed to keep the population stable without immigration. …”
 
Yeah, this is not complicated. Vance, and MAGA by extension, “worry” about childlessness for one reason — they don’t want any justification for additional immigration from Central and South America. They want America to be adequately populated by the white people who are here already. This whole narrative Vance is pushing is just the Great Replacement Theory in sheep’s clothing.
 
So the small government Republicans are now all in on government manipulated social engineering? And their aspirational harbinger is Viktor Orban?

JFC
 
I have no idea what the process is on how hard it would be for Trump to replace Vance on the ticket. But if Trump wants to do it Republican Party bylaws will not stop him from doing so. They would roll over very quickly if the Cheeto wants it.
 

Here's hoping all this talk about how Trump should dump Vance, especially now that dems like Schumer are predicting it, make him stick with him out of pure narcissistic spiteful malice.
I think that's the goal. I don't believe that Schumer, a veteran and shrewd pol, really believes that Trump is going to replace Vance. He's saying this because it will cause the GOP ticket more trouble - if they publicly deny it it will just keep the story in the headlines, because that's how these things work. And Trump will hate it, because he's all about appearances and people (even Democrats and some media) calling your running mate a weirdo and extremist will no doubt infuriate him.
 

Just another sign that the criticisms and mockery by Democrats that the GOP ticket is "weird" are taking hold. This is a clear attempt by the WSJ to try and normalize Vance's statements - "Oh, he's not so strange! His arguments are actually sound and have merit - they're normal! NORMAL!" And I don't think it will work with anyone outside their base, because, well, Trump and Vance are weird.
 
At one point I was registered as a Republican in Ohio so I could vote for John Kasich and against Donald Trump in the 2016 GOP primary (Kasich won.) In Ohio, when you tell the poll worker which party's primary you want to participate in, they register you as a member of that party on the spot and you remain registered as such until you change it. I think that is how I got on the Trump/Vance email list. I did not receive Trump emails before Vance was named to the ticket and now I get them every day, so the Ohio GOP list somehow got incorporated into the Trump/Vance list.

I say all that to preface another creepy email I got from "Future Vice President Vance". Can you believe this shit? It IS weird.

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I say all that to preface another creepy email I got from "Future Vice President Vance". Can you believe this shit? It IS weird.
It's weird because their outreach emails / texts all feign familiarity with you to such an absurd degree that they come across as obviously disingenuous and artificial.

There's likely ~65-70 million votes for Trump, but it's you in particular, Farce, that Trump and Vance will remember... GTFOH

Makes me cringe so hard...
 
At one point I was registered as a Republican in Ohio so I could vote for John Kasich and against Donald Trump in the 2016 GOP primary (Kasich won.) In Ohio, when you tell the poll worker which party's primary you want to participate in, they register you as a member of that party on the spot and you remain registered as such until you change it. I think that is how I got on the Trump/Vance email list. I did not receive Trump emails before Vance was named to the ticket and now I get them every day, so the Ohio GOP list somehow got incorporated into the Trump/Vance list.

I say all that to preface another creepy email I got from "Future Vice President Vance". Can you believe this shit? It IS weird.

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I signed up to attend a Trump rally 2-4 years ago.

Daily I get texts from “Trump” telling me he wants to give me a HUGE gift. Click on the link and the “gift” is the privilege of buying something from the Trump campaign or donating to it.
 
Well, according to that personal email, I am "one of their most patriotic Trump Republicans."

So all you radical left socialists can just go straight to hell! I'm in a new club now!
 

Here's hoping all this talk about how Trump should dump Vance, especially now that dems like Schumer are predicting it, make him stick with him out of pure narcissistic spiteful malice.
Agreed. This is something we DON’T want. Hopefully, Trump doubles down on his bad decision, as he is prone to do.
 
While this reflects poorly on me as a human being, I do find JD Vance's current predicament amusing. Vance degraded himself and all that he allegedly stood for, in order to bow down to and worship St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago. To the utter best of his Ivy League education and military finishing school training, he completely and totally remade himself into a mini-Trump, a fun-house mirror reflection of St. Donald. And now, much as Tammy Faye Baker discovered years ago, when finished, people have recoiled in horror, while mumbling, "Too much!"
 
I have no idea what the process is on how hard it would be for Trump to replace Vance on the ticket. But if Trump wants to do it Republican Party bylaws will not stop him from doing so. They would roll over very quickly if the Cheeto wants it.
I don't think there would be any point.

The cardinal sin of politics (or at least one of them) is to feed your opponent's narrative. That's why Biden's debate performance was so catastrophic for him. The narrative was that he was old and doddering, and that's what he was. There are a number of terrible behaviors at the debate that wouldn't have been as harmful. If he had decided to describe Trump's presidency as poop, and to drive the point home, he pooped on stage and threw the poop at Trump -- I don't think that would have diminished his standing as much as his actual debate.

But fortunately for Dems, the narrative being fed was "Biden too old." It was Biden specific. Biden steps aside, and the problem largely goes away.

The Dems narrative is that the GOP hates women. Vance comes along and confirms the narrative. Oops. But the Dems' narrative hasn't been about one person but rather the entire MAGA movement. Everyone can now see (if they aren't committed to willful blindness), "yep, MAGA is what the liberals said it was." Removing Vance isn't going to fix that. He's already done the damage. The next VP candidate will be inevitably compared to Vance, and that will just remind voters of the main problem here. The new VP will be saying "I don't think of women as childless cat ladies," which only keeps childless cat ladies in the conversation. Then the new VP will be asked if s/he agrees with Vance on X Y or Z, and the answer will of course be yes to some of those things, and the cycle will renew again. Ultimately the VP will establish his or her own identity with distance from MAGA, and then what does that say about MAGA?

Vance has also allowed the Dems' messaging to expand. Not only do MAGAs hate women, but they are deeply weird. You know, they shoot their dogs. They would have to be 100% sure that a Vance replacement doesn't have his/her own weirdness, because that would play into the narrative so strongly: "Why can't Trump find anyone to be VP who isn't a total freak?" It wouldn't even matter if the weirdness was unrelated to policy. If the VP eats pudding with his fingers -- well, again, why are they so weird? If the VP has an agreement with his son to monitor their porn usage, why are they so weird? So on and so forth.

So the next VP pick would have to be perfect. If it was me, I'd roll with Vance and just try to let it blow over like Access Hollywood. The damage has been done. Don't invite yet more damage.
 
I have 2 cheery thoughts to leave you with:
  1. If Trump wins JD Vance would be a heartbeat away from the presidency, and Trump is 78 years old.
  2. Consider Trump dumping Vance for Kennedy. Trump is desperate, I don't think it's out of the question.
 
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