JD Vance suggested the US's support for NATO could be pulled if Europe tries to regulate Elon Musk's X

[dukeman92]

JD Vance suggested the US's support for NATO could be pulled if Europe tries to regulate Elon Musk's X as free speech debate rumbles on

Vance said it was "insane that we would support a military alliance if that military alliance isn't going to be pro-free speech."

www.businessinsider.com

 

[mpaer]

Here we go.
Hope callatory likes these policies

 

[farce©]

“Pro-free speech” like Orban’s Hungary? Isn't Orban JD’s fuck buddy?

 

[PTOHeel]

To them “free speech” is simply “things I agree with.”

 

[JCTarheel82]

To them “free speech” is simply “things I agree with.”

And the right to propagate disinformation.

 

[buzzosborne]

Of course, NATO countries could always tell Trump to shove anti-china sanctions and tariffs deep deep up his capacious butthole.

 

[Callatoroy]

Here we go.
Hope callatory likes these policies

It’s called leverage. The US isn’t pulling out of NATO. I do think that card can only be played a couple ot times before NATO realizes the bluff.

 

[Callatoroy]

And the right to propagate disinformation.

Oh, Zuckerberg is your kind of guy right? You obviously prefer censorship and hate free speech.

 

[mpaer]

I am uncomfortable with the USA playing "leverage " games with NATO . We are Allies. I get the "angle" MAGAs like..I don't like it.....

 

[Callatoroy]

JD Vance suggested the US's support for NATO could be pulled if Europe tries to regulate Elon Musk's X as free speech debate rumbles on

Vance said it was "insane that we would support a military alliance if that military alliance isn't going to be pro-free speech."

www.businessinsider.com

Why post something behind a pay wall.

 

[Callatoroy]

I am uncomfortable with the USA playing "leverage " games with NATO . We are Allies. I get the "angle" MAGAs like..I don't like it.....

I’m not crazy about it either. To me you have to start softer and ramp up from there. You don’t start at defcon 1

 

[mpaer]

Why post something behind a pay wall.

Yea
But the punchline is meaningful

 

[mpaer]

I’m not crazy about it either. To me you have to start softer and ramp up from there. You don’t start at defcon 1

Do you agree trump is very likely to start at Defcon High

 

[Callatoroy]

Here we go.
Hope callatory likes these policies

Well this wasn’t very nice of some EU leader

“
“The leader, I forget exactly which official it was within the European Union, but sent Elon this threatening letter that basically said, ‘We’re going to arrest you if you platform Donald Trump,’ who, by the way, is the likely next president of the United States,” Vance said in the interview published last week.


Trump’s running mate then suggested that US support for NATO should be used as a cudgel to get the Europeans in line.

 

[Callatoroy]

Do you agree trump is very likely to start at Defcon High

I do. I think he always does. His style is to threaten which even when resulting in an agreement leaves a bad taste in the other’s mouth. However he never seems to do it unless he has overwhelming leverage. iMO, not the right approach. Hoping Vance will be the adult in the room.

 

[HeelingAg]

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“The leader, I forget exactly which official it was within the European Union, but sent Elon this threatening letter that basically said, ‘We’re going to arrest you if you platform Donald Trump,’ who, by the way, is the likely next president of the United States,” Vance said in the interview published last week

Oh. You believe this.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Oh. You believe this.

Of course. Elon wouldn’t lie.

 

[Callatoroy]

Oh. You believe this.

Should be easy enough to verify and awfully risky to lie about

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Should be easy enough to verify and awfully risky to lie about

It would be easy for Musk to prove, but how would anyone else verify without his cooperation?

 

[Callatoroy]

“Congress passed legislation according to which you cannot leave NATO without the consent of Congress,” former NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said in an interview on Wednesday. “And during my visit to U.S. Congress, I have seen a very strong bipartisan support for NATO, staying in NATO. Obviously, a U.S. president can, as a commander in chief, make life difficult for NATO, but to see the U.S. leave NATO? No.”