Joe Biden Was NOT running the country

WaynetheDrain said:
I’m ok with anyone running the country over the currently elected POTUS.
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I’d take ChatGPT as President over Trump. It’s not like Trump is even reading those executive orders he signs. He is “running” the country about as much as a zombie runs the country. He just talks into a microphone and has his underlings send a few truths every day. He doesn’t actually do anything. The Herritage Foundation is running the country far more than Trump.
 
Calheel said:
I’d take ChatGPT as President over Trump. It’s not like Trump is even reading those executive orders he signs. He is “running” the country about as much as a zombie runs the country. He just talks into a microphone and has his underlings send a few truths every day. He doesn’t actually do anything. The Herritage Foundation is running the country far more than Trump.
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Pretty much sums up the collective opinions of the crew here.

Make sure you drink your prune juice and turn the thermostat up.

 
GuyFree said:
I don't have the time or the desire to post the numerous links stating the facts on this one...

Funny how the media talking head are writing books, making bank on a situation that most of you on here said was "fake news."

But.. as long as it fits your narrative and keeps your party in power that is all that matters.

Every damn thing the left accuse the right of they are already doing.

But you can always claim "racism/"
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GuyFree said:
If Biden would have somehow won would you have admitted he was a vegetable?

No.

For the left it is all about power.

List liberal positions and I'll counter them and win.

I dare you.
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Don't answer for me, you don't know me.

I wanted Biden to announce at the midterm that he wasn't running. While I believe the Biden administration did a pretty good job, I was never simply a Biden follower. I voted for someone else in the primaries, but once it was him against Trump, I knew exactly who I was voting for.

You are here with all this great 2020 hindsight, would you still have voted for this orange turd knowing that he doesn't understand economics and is willing to put his personal gain and personal pinion above everyone? Are you willing to do what I did at the mid terms and again after the debate and call on your party to replace this old mentally declining orange narcissist?

If not then shut up answering for others.

As for power? Really? Coming from the party that wants to control medical rights and tell people that they can't be who they are. Really?
 
GuyFree said:
Beat your team.

2x.

And took the House and Senate. And will keep the Senate. Will put two SCOTUS Judges and maybe 3.

Sleep on that.
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He won two elections due to a broken system.

2016
Trump 62,984,828
Hillary 65,853,514
Trump = -2,868,686

2020
Trump 74,223,234
Biden 81,283,501

Trump = -7,059,526
Cumulative = -9,928,212

2024
Trump 77,303,568
Harris 75,019,230

Trump = +2,284,338

Total for three elections Trump = -7,643,874

Yea, a broken system gave us this piece of shit. It took him three tries and 4 straight years od campaigning to finally fool enough people to actually win the popular vote.

A clear reason we need to do away with the electoral college.
 
Calheel said:
I’d take ChatGPT as President over Trump. It’s not like Trump is even reading those executive orders he signs. He is “running” the country about as much as a zombie runs the country. He just talks into a microphone and has his underlings send a few truths every day. He doesn’t actually do anything. The Herritage Foundation is running the country far more than Trump.
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And have you listened to some of his speeches lately? He's getting worse quickly. But the cult probably likes that.

The speech about drug cost was comedy gold. And this is a policy that I support. But the speech. 🤪
 
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If anyone is wondering where this is coming from, it's a new book by Jake Tapper and a reporter from axios, Alex Thompson, “Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again,”.

One of the quotes in the book is from senior Democratic lawmakers right after the debate, "who the hell is running the country?" which I assume is where the memes are coming from.

Basically, the crux of the book is they did interviews with about 200 Democratic Insiders and people were seeing signs of Biden's cognitive and physical decline for a couple years but White House staff and Biden family members kept insisting that he was fine.

"The facts certainly point to Biden’s staff having more strategically protected him from public view after the midterms, when he increasingly struggled to handle the basic duties of the presidency. If his mental state was bad, he was in just as rough shape physically — aides were reportedly mulling using a wheelchair to transport him if he won a second term."

 
gtyellowjacket said:
If anyone is wondering where this is coming from, it's a new book by Jake Tapper and a reporter from axios, Alex Thompson, “Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again,”.

One of the quotes in the book is from senior Democratic lawmakers right after the debate, "who the hell is running the country?" which I assume is where the memes are coming from.

Basically, the crux of the book is they did interviews with about 200 Democratic Insiders and people were seeing signs of Biden's cognitive and physical decline for a couple years but White House staff and Biden family members kept insisting that he was fine.

"The facts certainly point to Biden’s staff having more strategically protected him from public view after the midterms, when he increasingly struggled to handle the basic duties of the presidency. If his mental state was bad, he was in just as rough shape physically — aides were reportedly mulling using a wheelchair to transport him if he won a second term."

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I think pretty much everyone here is aware of that and nothing in Tapper's book is a surprise. I've been mad as hell at Biden's team ever since the first debate. They lied to us and that's inexcusable. He was in no condition to run for a second term and he and his team handed the election to Trump by hiding him and lying to the press.

None of that excuses the people who voted for the worst human in the history of this country to become president for a second time, but I have zero interest in defending Biden or his team. They assured us he was ok, but anyone who watched that debate knew we were being gaslighted. I'm not sure why Republicans can't recognize how they're being gaslighted every single day, but those of us who can see it shouldn't just accept it. It doesn't have to be this way.
 
lawtig02 said:
I think pretty much everyone here is aware of that and nothing in Tapper's book is a surprise. I've been mad as hell at Biden's team ever since the first debate. They lied to us and that's inexcusable. He was in no condition to run for a second term and he and his team handed the election to Trump by hiding him and lying to the press.

None of that excuses the people who voted for the worst human in the history of this country to become president for a second time, but I have zero interest in defending Biden or his team. They assured us he was ok, but anyone who watched that debate knew we were being gaslighted. I'm not sure why Republicans can't recognize how they're being gaslighted every single day, but those of us who can see it shouldn't just accept it. It doesn't have to be this way.
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To me it sounds like a failure of the 25th amendment. If Biden was so obviously in decline, the Cabinet heads would have known but they didn't remove him because they didn't want to lose their jobs. During the first Trump term, we got rumblings for the 25th but it didn't happen then either.

But I don't know of a better way to do it. Who should Americans trust to make the decision quickly enough to matter where there wouldn't be the potential of some politically motivated pressure on the president? No matter who you choose or what group you choose, there's always the potential of a threat like "Mr President, you need to enact this policy that you don't like or I will remove you from office for being unfit to serve."
 
gtyellowjacket said:
To me it sounds like a failure of the 25th amendment. If Biden was so obviously in decline, the Cabinet heads would have known but they didn't remove him because they didn't want to lose their jobs. During the first Trump term, we got rumblings for the 25th but it didn't happen then either.
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If you can figure out how the 25th actually works, you'd answer your own question. And note that Cabinet heads would not necessarily have known. Most of them meet with the president only intermittently.
 
The “revelations” over the last few days about Biden not being up to it is a nothing burger to anyone with sense. It was clear to anyone with eyes that Biden had cognitive decline early into his term. It is a fair question to ask who was running the country but since we have had Trump-Biden-Trump, it’s pretty clear that the government runs itself.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
It is a fair question to ask who was running the country but since we have had Trump-Biden-Trump, it’s pretty clear that the government runs itself.
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Um, you know that the president isn't actually involved with the day to day operation of the government. So yeah, the government -- like any large organization -- runs itself. Who's been running Tesla? They are still producing cars, correct?

IOW It is not a fair question to ask who was running the country. That's a misleading question of zero relevance and a lot of rhetorical question begging.

There are fair questions to ask about the presidents' mental acuities but "who is running the country" is not remotely an insightful way to do it.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
The “revelations” over the last few days about Biden not being up to it is a nothing burger to anyone with sense. It was clear to anyone with eyes that Biden had cognitive decline early into his term. It is a fair question to ask who was running the country but since we have had Trump-Biden-Trump, it’s pretty clear that the government runs itself.
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Honestly this is just revisionist nonsense. I guess someone might say that semantically the president doesn't directly run the country and someone might decide to hold on to that argument while hurling insults or writing long pedantic screeds about why he is correct.

But that's not the same as it doesn't really matter who the president is because the country runs itself. It matters. I don't particularly want Trump in there but I also don't want someone in obvious cognitive decline.
 
If Biden was not "running the country " , then I would be interested to know who was running the country and reestablished good relationships with our allies, implemented a Covid vaccine program that corrected the previous administration's botched management of Covid, and then handed Trump a golden economy that was the envy of the world.

Someone should write a book about that guy who was actually "running the country". That would be a book that I would enjoy reading.
 
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