Kiss cam whoopsie at Coldplay concert

That one was other level “why the fuck are we talking about this?”
I will say that girl got her fifteen minutes of fame and then some. And of course she ruined it by starting that dumbass Crypto Scam, although whether she knew it was a scam or just got played remains in question, I guess.
 
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the actual NYT piece is a lot more interesting and informative than this TMZ drivel. she didn't "blame it on the alcohol" but moreso acknowledged that it was a brand new and evolving thing and what was supposed to be a fun night out with friends involving a little alcohol turned completely upside down. i now kind of feel bad for participating (however mildly) in the whole furor surrounding that situation. can't speak for byron since this piece is about her but she got absolutely dragged by millions of people for pretty flimsy reasons, frankly.


Brooke Duffy, an associate professor at Cornell University whose research focuses on internet culture, compared Cabot’s experience to the tradition of celebrity gossip. Cheating scandals and plastic surgery mistakes “ensnare us into dissecting women” in ways that become a proxy for larger debates, and anger, about haves and have-nots and about what a woman should be permitted to do, she said. What happened to Cabot also reminded Duffy of the much older “sport or game” of witch hunts. Byron was pursued by paparazzi and dragged through the comments as well, “but where did the criticism fall?” Duffy said. “It fell on her.”
 
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the actual NYT piece is a lot more interesting and informative than this TMZ drivel. she didn't "blame it on the alcohol" but moreso acknowledged that it was a brand new and evolving thing and what was supposed to be a fun night out with friends involving a little alcohol turned completely upside down. i now kind of feel bad for participating (however mildly) in the whole furor surrounding that situation. can't speak for byron since this piece is about her but she got absolutely dragged by millions of people for pretty flimsy reasons, frankly.


Brooke Duffy, an associate professor at Cornell University whose research focuses on internet culture, compared Cabot’s experience to the tradition of celebrity gossip. Cheating scandals and plastic surgery mistakes “ensnare us into dissecting women” in ways that become a proxy for larger debates, and anger, about haves and have-nots and about what a woman should be permitted to do, she said. What happened to Cabot also reminded Duffy of the much older “sport or game” of witch hunts. Byron was pursued by paparazzi and dragged through the comments as well, “but where did the criticism fall?” Duffy said. “It fell on her.”
Admittedly, I didn’t read the article but, I don’t feel bad because these people were clearly cheating on their spouses. Even if they didn’t engage in so much as kissing, which is probably a lie, I would assume no spouse would enjoy if their significant other kept a secret that they were cuddling lovingly with another person behind their back.

I’m not saying take them out behind the shed and execute them but if you play with fire, there’s a chance you’re gonna get burned.
 
Admittedly, I didn’t read the article but, I don’t feel bad because these people were clearly cheating on their spouses. Even if they didn’t engage in so much as kissing, which is probably a lie, I would assume no spouse would enjoy if their significant other kept a secret that they were cuddling lovingly with another person behind their back.

I’m not saying take them out behind the shed and execute them but if you play with fire, there’s a chance you’re gonna get burned.
well, maybe you should read it.

cabot and the ex (andrew cabot) were already privately and amicably separated with divorce proceedings underway. that significantly softens the calculus for her transgression here.
 
well, maybe you should read it.

cabot and the ex (andrew cabot) were already privately and amicably separated with divorce proceedings underway. that significantly softens the calculus for her transgression here.
So, she was separated but the guy wasn’t?
 
So, she was separated but the guy wasn’t?
yep. her ex is the one who released the statement saying they were "privately and amicably separated with divorce proceedings underway."

he isn't carrying a grudge and it sounds like he's been fairly nice through the whole ordeal, in the NYT piece Cabot said he's been a "perfect gentleman."

she says she ducked out of the kiss cam at the concert because the ex was also at the concert and she didn't want to upset him. they seem to be on pretty decent terms.

kinda sounds like byron is the one who was cheating / not actually separated even though he apparently told cabot he was.
 
the actual NYT piece is a lot more interesting and informative than this TMZ drivel. she didn't "blame it on the alcohol" but moreso acknowledged that it was a brand new and evolving thing and what was supposed to be a fun night out with friends involving a little alcohol turned completely upside down. i now kind of feel bad for participating (however mildly) in the whole furor surrounding that situation. can't speak for byron since this piece is about her but she got absolutely dragged by millions of people for pretty flimsy reasons, frankly.


Brooke Duffy, an associate professor at Cornell University whose research focuses on internet culture, compared Cabot’s experience to the tradition of celebrity gossip. Cheating scandals and plastic surgery mistakes “ensnare us into dissecting women” in ways that become a proxy for larger debates, and anger, about haves and have-nots and about what a woman should be permitted to do, she said. What happened to Cabot also reminded Duffy of the much older “sport or game” of witch hunts. Byron was pursued by paparazzi and dragged through the comments as well, “but where did the criticism fall?” Duffy said. “It fell on her.”
As a human, I feel bad for her. That's a crummy thing to go through. And, no matter what one has done, there really is very rarely justification for death threats.

That said, i don't feel bad at all for participating.

The mistakes Cabot & Byron made in this are essentially the reason that it all happened...

- Cabot was still married (even if unhappily) and was not publicly out of that marriage
- Byron was almost certainly not even separated as he and his wife are still married
- They were the CEO and CPO of their company and dating is a huge issue in that case
- They were not publicly dating and therefore should have been aware of canoodling in public
- When they appeared on-screen, they both acted guilty by (hilariously) running from the camera

Even if 1-4 were not true, they would have likely been fine had they not acted so extremely, extremely guilty when placed on camera and the night would have probably gone on with very little issue for both of them. Let's be honest, their reactions were simply hilarious and made it clear they were doing stuff they shouldn't have been doing.

If you're gonna go out in public and put your private business out there for the world to see, you can't really be upset that the world pays attention.
 
Of course she does not deserve what she got. That's like giving 50 years to life to an electronics store manager for stealing a TV. Is what she did clearly and demonstrably wrong? Sure. Should she have been fired for it. Sure... but I can tell you millions of people have inappropriate office relationships every day, and the vast majority get no more than a hand slap if caught. But yeah, Head of HR probably has to be held to a higher standard. Sure. But what she and her family went through? That punishment def doesn't fit the crime. I feel for her.
 
The reality is that people make stupid mistakes ALL THE TIME. I know I have... thank goodness the internet wasn't really a thing then. You shouldn't get death threats and be afraid of going in public -- or have to put your kids in therapy and take them out of school -- because you had a couple of drinks and flirted with your boss while you were separated. This person wasn't a celebrity, she didn't seek fame or fortune, she was just a person at a concert who made a mistake. Same for him. The public shaming we engage in and the vitriol we have towards people we don't even know is unhealthy. More and more these days I wish the internet had never been invented.
 
As a human, I feel bad for her. That's a crummy thing to go through. And, no matter what one has done, there really is very rarely justification for death threats.

That said, i don't feel bad at all for participating.

The mistakes Cabot & Byron made in this are essentially the reason that it all happened...

- Cabot was still married (even if unhappily) and was not publicly out of that marriage
- Byron was almost certainly not even separated as he and his wife are still married
- They were the CEO and CPO of their company and dating is a huge issue in that case
- They were not publicly dating and therefore should have been aware of canoodling in public
- When they appeared on-screen, they both acted guilty by (hilariously) running from the camera

Even if 1-4 were not true, they would have likely been fine had they not acted so extremely, extremely guilty when placed on camera and the night would have probably gone on with very little issue for both of them. Let's be honest, their reactions were simply hilarious and made it clear they were doing stuff they shouldn't have been doing.

If you're gonna go out in public and put your private business out there for the world to see, you can't really be upset that the world pays attention.
fair enough although i don't agree at all with bullet point #1 being a "mistake" or wrong.

she wasn't a public figure and was legally separated. absolutely nothing wrong with dating at that point.

now, who she chose to date is another matter but a lot or even most of that falls on byron, not her.
 
The reality is that people make stupid mistakes ALL THE TIME. I know I have... thank goodness the internet wasn't really a thing then. You shouldn't get death threats and be afraid of going in public -- or have to put your kids in therapy and take them out of school -- because you had a couple of drinks and flirted with your boss while you were separated. This person wasn't a celebrity, she didn't seek fame or fortune, she was just a person at a concert who made a mistake. Same for him. The public shaming we engage in and the vitriol we have towards people we don't even know is unhealthy. More and more these days I wish the internet had never been invented.
It was an egregious act of bad judgment by people who are highly compensated to know better. And their firing (and interpersonal consequences) were the proper punishment.

Public shaming is an act of violence meted out by a society gone astray.
 
fair enough although i don't agree at all with bullet point #1 being a "mistake" or wrong.

she wasn't a public figure and was legally separated. absolutely nothing wrong with dating at that point.

now, who she chose to date is another matter but a lot or even most of that falls on byron, not her.
I agree there's nothing wrong with dating when you're separated, but doing so in a public manner when you aren't ready to be public about the separation is a bad idea.
 
It was an egregious act of bad judgment by people who are highly compensated to know better. And their firing (and interpersonal consequences) were the proper punishment.

Public shaming is an act of violence meted out by a society gone astray.
you should read the article.

cabot wasn't fired and calling her actions "egregious" in light of the actual circumstances is pretty unreasonable.

public shaming feels good when truly bad actors are involved but this one went a bit overboard especially with regard to the woman, who used some bad judgment but didn't do anything grievous.
 
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