Mack Brown (not) gone (yet)

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Peppers49 said:
I like how the main underlying defense of the pro Mack 2.0 crowd is this idea that he was the only coach that could have saved the program from the ashes of Fedora, even though that’s pure conjecture. New coaches all across the country routinely take programs that spent a year or two at the bottom of the standings and turn them around to respectability. Mack isn’t some unique miracle worker for going 6-6 a year after the team bottomed out.
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It's a very Trumpesque way of seeing the situation.
 
I remember having a conversation with my dad right after Mack got hired in 2018. I asked my dad, a UNC alum who was 70 at the time, what he thought of the hire. He wasn’t a fan. The reason was because he believed that when people get to the age Mack was, they just don’t have the fire they need for that kind of job. They may find it in spurts, but they can’t keep it going on a consistent enough basis.

It was interesting to talk about that with him, because I guess I had seen something similar with my dad. He had been retired for about two years at that point. Before retiring, he had practiced law for about 43 years. When I was growing up, he was a workaholic. He worked tirelessly at his job. On top of that, he was involved in a number of other activities outside of work. He wasn’t someone who allowed himself to have any downtime for much of his adult life. But in his 60s, it appeared he was changing. He started to become a little less passionate about his work. He cut back his hours and gave himself more downtime. By his mid-60s, this former workaholic was very much looking forward to retiring. It was interesting to get his perspective on the hiring of somebody Mack’s age.
 
mpaer said:
In fairness to those folks...Mack got folks engaged because he was like the HIgh School sweatheart that they unfortunately had broken up with. Day one of his return they wanted to kiss him. A new guy might not have been that pretty-even if he was a better coach
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Oh for sure. He wouldn’t have been my choice, but I still understood the logic behind it as a safe hire because you knew at minimum he could reinvigorate the fan base and get our recruiting back on track. I just don’t agree with the idea that Mack was the only person that could resurrect the program, and I think there were probably other potential candidates out there that maybe didn’t have quite as high of a floor as Mack, but would have put us in a much better position long term than what Mack could offer at his age.
 
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I advocated for hiring Mack on 2018 and think he did an incredible job in making us at least a relevant part of the conversation with the talent he brought to campus. Much like politicians who cannot see their own age limitations, however, Mack vastly overrated his own ability to be more than a stop-gap. He should have been grooming a replacement from day one and he absolutely should have been shown a graceful exit after last season. The two late season collapses in a row spoke volumes about the lack of intensity and preparation in the program.

The JMU game was inexcusable on every possible level. I'm not sure I've ever seen a team more poorly prepared or motivated.

It's a shame that Mack's legacy will be severely eroded by this season, but that seems inevitable to me. The fiasco of quasi-quitting only adds to the mess.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I advocated for hiring Mack on 2018 and think he did an incredible job in making us at least a relevant part of the conversation with the talent he brought to campus. Much like politicians who cannot see their own age limitations, however, Mack vastly overrated his own ability to be more than a stop-gap. He should have been grooming a replacement from day one and he absolutely should have been shown a graceful exit after last season. The two late season collapses in a row spoke volumes about the lack of intensity and preparation in the program.

The JMU game was inexcusable on every possible level. I'm not sure I've ever seen a team more poorly prepared or motivated.

It's a shame that Mack's legacy will be severely eroded by this season, but that seems inevitable to me. The fiasco of quasi-quitting only adds to the mess.
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There are key moments in everyone's life, and one of the most underrated is knowing when it's time to step away and/or retire. IMO, we all reach the age at some point in our life when we physically or mentally simply can't do our jobs well anymore, or we simply have lost the fire and drive and ambition to do a good job. And too many people are stubborn and refuse to admit it, even to themselves. And unfortunately the result is what we're seeing now. You're right that Mack should have retired after the end of last season. But he failed to retire with some dignity, and now he's likely going to have a disastrous losing record in his final season as a head coach, and be forced to leave at the end of the season. But he brought it on himself.
 
SnoopRob said:
Oh, man, you just know everything about moderators. I can’t imagine how you managed to learn so much about us.

You haven’t been stalking me, have you?
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Bless your heart kid. We all know it. The volunteer mall cops of the interweb.

Whatcha been doing since you got laid off from your unpaid position? Perhaps being a school crossing guard could satiate you and actually do some good for society.
 
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Hopefully not this one. Can you shift your dominant paradigm? No conspiracy just intelligent discussions?
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
Bless your heart kid. We all know it. The volunteer mall cops of the interweb.

Whatcha been doing since you got laid off from your unpaid position? Perhaps being a school crossing guard could satiate you and actually do some good for society.
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Oh no, I could never do something so important as being a school crossing guard.

Mostly I’ve spent some spare time over here discussing politics and reading a few morons whining about the moderating on IC.
 
SnoopRob said:
Oh no, I could never do something so important as being a school crossing guard.

Mostly I’ve spent some spare time over here discussing politics and reading a few morons whining about the moderating on IC.
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Angling for a promotion basically......
 
Macks nothing but a conman and grifter stealing money.....no different than Trump. Most coaches are. I understand how people are fooled by the con, though.
 
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