MAGA/MAHA/TPUSA/Far Right coalition starting to splinter?

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TRIGGER WARNING — Some of these folks post extremely antisemitic and other extremely vile things, a tiny bit of which I’ve shared below. The shared offensive content is intended as insight into how extreme some of the rhetoric being debated, rejected or accepted really is.

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I had been posting about this on the Current Events thread but moving to its own thread so folks who just don’t want to see the (sometimes startlingly offensive) back and forth of this internecine battle can just avoid this thread.

It started among right wing influencers after the Kirk assassination, and then overtook the right wing influencer class with the release of the Young Republican chat with a lot of offensive text.

Now it has has spread to the right wing political, think tank and religious classes in the last few weeks, particularly since Tucker Carlson interviewed Nick Fuentes without pushing back off Fuentes’ extreme antisemitism or embrace of Hitler was right rhetoric.

At its heart is a fight about how far right is too far right for the MAGA movement, with a particular focus on whether there should be room in the tent for Groypers and Christian Nationalists …

Background:







Vance wading into the group chat disclosure REALLY opened the floodgates of far, far right (“woke right”?) becoming more brazen in openly demanding their place in MAGA.
 
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Battle for control of the far right and inheritor of MAGA Movement is spreading out of the influencer class into the political class …





The battle for post-Trump conservatism is under way. And Trump is clearly disengaged from everything except personal legacy—building.
 
Prior post from Current Events topic

nycfan said:
Battle for control of the far right and inheritor of MAGA Movement is spreading out of the influencer class into the political class …





The battle for post-Trump conservatism is under way. And Trump is clearly disengaged from everything except personal legacy—building.
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This fight is in significant part about MAGA frustration with pro-Israel policies — the label for purported “Israel first” Republicans is MIGA; a seemingly random response of “$7000” to a pro-Israel (or anti-Nazi) post Is right wing slang for an influencer being paid per post by Israel (which is hilarious considering a number of right wing influencers turned out to be paid by Russia).

The imbroglio about Tucker Carlson interviewing Nick Fuentes without pushing back on Fuentes’ antisemitism and neo-Nazi rhetoric is also about whether MAGA should embrace the far, far right (as Matt Walsh and Carlson seem to propose) or shun them.

But this battle really does seem to have broken out into the open due to the murder of Charlie Kirk. The battle to inherit/take over Kirk’s TPUSA base is fierce and the rhetoric has been tainted by conspiracy theories blaming Israel for the killing (including several that allege that Erika Kirk was/is an accomplice of the Israeli plot). That stayed mostly inside the overlapping MAGA/Groyper insider bubbles, but the Carlson/Fuentes interview has dragged in the Heritage Foundation, other MAGA annd GOP institutions and GOP politicians as pro-Israel MAGA, anti-Israel MAGA and Groypers demand everyone on the right pick a side — can anti-Israel MAGA and antisemitic MAGA be part of the MAGA movement going forward (i.e. post-Trump)?

The cult of personality is having to grope with the increasingly obvious fact that their cult leader is passing into his lame-duck phase, and Trump may have expedited the transition by a year by becoming so clearly focused on his own legacy burnishing that he is increasingly detached from what animates MAGA. The childish focus on the Nobel Peace Prize, the expanded support of Israel and the increasing focus on international travel and international policy is not what anti-engagement America First types signed up for. The focus on ballrooms and renovations and golf trips also ignores the populist economic message that many MAGA supporters embraced — the social conservative but liberal populist economics set.

Don’t get me wrong, MAGA will never abandon Trump, but to date the MAGA coalition is held together as a cult of personality. As Trump is consumed by his own narcissism, the cracks in the MAGA coalition are widening and folks held together by a shared love of Trump are looking around questioning if they want to move forward arm and arm with some of their fellow cult members once Trump is gone. And on the far, far right, they are more openly trying to take advantage of the radical rightward shift of the Overton Window to more openly frame the future of MAGA in Christian Nationalist and White Nationalist terms.
 
nycfan said:
Battle for control of the far right and inheritor of MAGA Movement is spreading out of the influencer class into the political class …





The battle for post-Trump conservatism is under way. And Trump is clearly disengaged from everything except personal legacy—building.
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trump is clearly disengaged from everything except trump.

As it always has been.
 
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