MAGA/MAHA/TPUSA/Far Right coalition starting to splinter?

[BillOfRights]

Can someone explain to me what he’s trying to say?

 

[lawtig02]

Can someone explain to me what he’s trying to say?

The smart fascists are getting fucked by the stupid fascists.

 

[finesse]

The smart fascists are getting fucked by the stupid fascists.

What would you expect? They have the numbers.

 

[BillOfRights]

The smart fascists are getting fucked by the stupid fascists.

Thank you

 

[SnoopRob]

Can someone explain to me what he’s trying to say?

While @lawtig02 is correct in his pithy reply, I think Lindsay is trying to make a large point that's important to understand.

He believes that there is a majority of Republicans (that he considers "sober minded conservatives") who want government to be doing certain things that are being undermined by the corruption of the Trump admin and all of the grifters and influencers surrounding it. He wants Trump to rise above being a stupid troll and get serious about instituting a fascist government that prioritizes Trump's base (white, male, cisgender, heterosexual, Christian, etc) above all other in our country.

The reason it's difficult to grasp is because it's seemingly based so deeply in bullshit that it's essentially unrecognizable to those of us living in reality.

For context, Lindsay thinks that MAGA is "generally conservative but not right-wing".

So he wants Trump to get serious about creating long-term change and to stop doing all the idiotic actions and corrupt grifting that he believes keeps Trump from doing these things. He also sees the coming backlash to Trump because of the effects Trump has had on the economy and the basic stability of our country and he wants to head off Republicans/conservatives taking the blame for all of it. He recognizes that Trump has been horrible for our country and that voters are going to increasingly hold Republicans accountable (for at least a period) for Trump and his administration; he wants to head off that as much as possible by blaming Trump and the "woke Right" (which he uses unironically) for the failings of the Trump admin rather than the right as a whole. He's also very well aware that Trump has opened Pandora's Box if/when a Dem gets the WH again as nearly all of the old guardrails are gone on presidential power and there's little that would restrain a Dem President if he or she decided to go as far on liberal/left-wing goals as Trump has on right-wing ones and he's terrified of this happening, so he's trying to get Trump to work harder on addressing these problems rather than Trump's more natural ranting and raving and grifting and dumbassery.

I think we're likely to see more of this as we approach midterms and beyond, as Trump's allotted time in office passes and Republicans have to look toward a post-Trump (non-)reality. The question of how the country moves on from an administration as corrupt and trollish and just plain stupid as Trump's likely means some hard times for Republicans (unless Trump is successful in either ending fair and free elections or overcoming the 22nd Amendment) and this guy is putting forth a path that tries to portray the worst of the Trump admin as an "anomaly" so as to try to limit the backlash to the Republican Party.

 

[BillOfRights]

While @lawtig02 is correct in his pithy reply, I think Lindsay is trying to make a large point that's important to understand.

He believes that there is a majority of Republicans (that he considers "sober minded conservatives") who want government to be doing certain things that are being undermined by the corruption of the Trump admin and all of the grifters and influencers surrounding it. He wants Trump to rise above being a stupid troll and get serious about instituting a fascist government that prioritizes Trump's base (white, male, cisgender, heterosexual, Christian, etc) above all other in our country.

The reason it's difficult to grasp is because it's seemingly based so deeply in bullshit that it's essentially unrecognizable to those of us living in reality.

For context, Lindsay thinks that MAGA is "generally conservative but not right-wing".

So he wants Trump to get serious about creating long-term change and to stop doing all the idiotic actions and corrupt grifting that he believes keeps Trump from doing these things. He also sees the coming backlash to Trump because of the effects Trump has had on the economy and the basic stability of our country and he wants to head off Republicans/conservatives taking the blame for all of it. He recognizes that Trump has been horrible for our country and that voters are going to increasingly hold Republicans accountable (for at least a period) for Trump and his administration; he wants to head off that as much as possible by blaming Trump and the "woke Right" (which he uses unironically) for the failings of the Trump admin rather than the right as a whole. He's also very well aware that Trump has opened Pandora's Box if/when a Dem gets the WH again as nearly all of the old guardrails are gone on presidential power and there's little that would restrain a Dem President if he or she decided to go as far on liberal/left-wing goals as Trump has on right-wing ones and he's terrified of this happening, so he's trying to get Trump to work harder on addressing these problems rather than Trump's more natural ranting and raving and grifting and dumbassery.

I think we're likely to see more of this as we approach midterms and beyond, as Trump's allotted time in office passes and Republicans have to look toward a post-Trump (non-)reality. The question of how the country moves on from an administration as corrupt and trollish and just plain stupid as Trump's likely means some hard times for Republicans (unless Trump is successful in either ending fair and free elections or overcoming the 22nd Amendment) and this guy is putting forth a path that tries to portray the worst of the Trump admin as an "anomaly" so as to try to limit the backlash to the Republican Party.

Thank you.

I've gotten lost, but I think it's important that we understand the dynamics here. Is it fair to think of the American electorate as 35% solid or leans D, 35% solid or leans R in some form, and 30% independent/swing voter/low-information-anti-incumbent? Adjust those as you see fit.

Of the 35% R, how would you break down:
Never-trumpers
Establishment Rs
MAGA
Far-right
alt-right
Neo-fascists
Woke right

Are some of these subgroups of the others?

Is there overlap?

Can you give me a couple of examples of each?
Where do Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, fox news, this Lindsay guy, House Republicans, Senate Republicans fit in?

Is Marjorie Taylor Greene a shape shifter?