Mass Deportation and Immigration Catch-All | Court blocks refugee ban

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PRRI year-end poll:

"...Republican voters and voters who score high on the authoritarianism scale are the most likely to agree that the U.S. military should put undocumented immigrants into internment camps until they can be deported.
  • Just one in four voters (26%) agree that the U.S. military should put immigrants who are in the country illegally into internment camps until they can be deported.
  • Republican voters (46%) are more than twice as likely as independent voters (19%) and more than five times as likely as Democratic voters (8%) to agree with this policy.
  • American voters who hold highly authoritarian views are six times as likely to agree with placing undocumented immigrants into such camps until they can be deported than American voters who largely reject authoritarianism (48% v. 8%).

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Analyzing the 2024 Presidential Vote: PRRI’s Post-Election Survey | PRRI

A new PRRI survey of about 5,000 American voters explores the U.S. political and cultural landscape after the 2024 election, including the impact of partisanship, race, and religion on voters’ choices and their feelings about the election’s outcome.
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Republicans’ real immigration dilemma: How big to go in Congress | Semafor

Donald Trump is wading into a fight over highly-skilled worker visas, but there’s a bigger debate already underway.
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Republicans’ real immigration dilemma: How big to go in Congress​


“… The GOP is preparing to take up an infusion of border security money as soon as this month, but it hasn’t settled on how broadly to craft that bill. There’s a twist: To get an immigration bill done without a filibuster, Republicans may need to bend or even break some of the Senate rules.

The border spending bill that Trump and congressional Republicans are mulling would devote as much as $100 billion to border security, including barriers, technology and manpower; it would be paid for by new energy leases.

To get it to Trump’s desk without having to seek Democratic votes or changing Senate precedent, however, the GOP will need to limit any policy changes they add to their bill — a central tenet of the filibuster protections they plan to use.

… “I’ve heard rumors that there is going to be a movement to pressure Senate Republicans to overrule the parliamentarian in order to enact policy in reconciliation,” retiring Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, I-Ariz., told Semafor.

Sinema warned that doing so would be “a backdoor elimination of the filibuster, and very dangerous.”

While the filibuster-proof reconciliation rules are designed to limit bills to fiscal policy only, Republicans have plenty of reasons to want to push the boundaries. Their biggest motivation is the staying power of laws: Trump will have broad sway over many executive actions on immigration, but President Joe Biden dismantled some of Trump’s first-term moves, and a future Democratic president could do the same. …”
 


From what I’ve read, Trump employs a lot of H-2B visa holders as staff (I would have to go find it but thought when he ran the first time someone found a clip where he said he thought the foreign employees in his clubs had more class than local Americans), not H-1B visa holders.
 
GOP is great at branding, but I'm notnsure if they have thought through the consequences of implementing this.

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Rep. Mike Collins Reintroduces the Laken Riley Act

Washington, D.C. – Today, Representative Mike Collins (GA-10) reintroduced the Laken Riley Act for the 119th Congress. This legislation, which passed the House last year with overwhelming bipartisan support before stalling in the Senate, gives ICE and state governments more resources to fight...
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CRHeel94 said:
GOP is great at branding, but I'm notnsure if they have thought through the consequences of implementing this.

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Rep. Mike Collins Reintroduces the Laken Riley Act

Washington, D.C. – Today, Representative Mike Collins (GA-10) reintroduced the Laken Riley Act for the 119th Congress. This legislation, which passed the House last year with overwhelming bipartisan support before stalling in the Senate, gives ICE and state governments more resources to fight...
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If you’re alluding to the need for much more prison capacity, I assure you they’ve not just thought of it. It’s one of the chief motivators. Private prison companies have been dumping cash into GOP coffers by the truck load.
 
CRHeel94 said:
That bit about AGs being able to sue Homeland Security...can really go sideways.
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Yes. Part of the plan. What you're seeing in slow motion is the return of nullification to the US. States want the ability to selectively pick and choose which federal laws to follow. Ignoring or defying the laws are one way, but that's a bit dangerous because you know, military. Destroying the federal law from within is a better option. If states can sue about anything immigration related, then the feds will just stop trying and that will allow Texas and other states to do what they really want.

You are surely familiar with mendacious politicians who lust after the power to inflict misery on people because of who they are. I think you've been victimized by those types of people. Well, those exist in America as well, and a lot of them hold offices at the state level. These are the people who get hard thinking about separating children from their parents.

American politics makes more sense if you make sure not to forget that most of the GOP, especially in the south, would have a very favorable impression of Riot Montt if they knew who he was. Some of them would love to be him. Minus his attempts to minimize graft.
 

Trump transition considering D.C.-area showcase immigration raid in first days of administration​

The raid under consideration would target immigrants allegedly living in the U.S. illegally at a workplace in the Washington, D.C., metropolitan area.

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Trump transition considering D.C.-area showcase immigration raid in first days of administration

The raid under consideration would target immigrants allegedly living in the U.S. illegally at a workplace in the metropolitan Washington area.
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“… In meetings between the Trump transition team and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, the Trump team has repeatedly asked about resources and logistics immediately available to carry out workplace raids, the three people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they’re not authorized to speak to the media about transition discussions, said. …”

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As an aside, it seems that Trump47 admin leaks like a sieve just like Trump45 did.
 

Trump border czar privately tempers Republican lawmaker expectations on administration’s initial deportation operation​



“… The discussions are part of a broader level-setting that is occurring among House Republicans, who are now coming to terms with the challenges of turning one of their key campaign promises into a reality. Republicans are also grappling with the harsh realization that most of their border overhaul measures are unlikely to be included in Trump’s massive agenda bill, given the strict rules around the reconciliation process that require proposals to either increase revenue or reduce spending, not change policy.

“Many members are only now beginning to understand that,” one GOP lawmaker told CNN. …”
 
We'll find out very soon, but I still wonder if in the end we're mainly going to see a lot of smoke and mirrors without much actually being done. Some dramatic raids and flashy deportations of relatively small numbers of illegals, but nothing on the scale that Dear Leader promised in the campaign. And they'll rely on right-wing media like Fox and OAN and Newsmax to fool their base into thinking that some major deportations and round ups are happening and that Trump's promises are actually being carried out. And the reason will be because too much of their base needs that cheap immigrant labor to survive - farmers, small-business owners, construction industry, and rich and upper-middle-class people who hire them for various jobs.
 


He first calls family separation a euphemism for the terrible job he says Biden did and family separation is something Dems will hide behind, saying it is about compassion for families.
 


Interesting politics here b/c Republicans have generally pushed to cover Venezuelans -- leaving that for Trump to have to do, I guess, if the GOP wants to do.

As a purely political matter (not a matter of what is or is not right on the merits), I'm not really sure why the Biden Administration is now worried about the appearance of political motivation to hinder the incoming Administration, TBH. It's not like Biden will be running again ...
 
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I wonder if Ron has considered that Biden did not extend protected status for Venezuelan immigrants? I mean, he may be thrilled, I don’t know.
 
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I wonder if Ron has considered that Biden did not extend protected status for Venezuelan immigrants? I mean, he may be thrilled, I don’t know.
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Trump raged about Venezuelan gangs and thus bought the problem. Let's see how he addresses it.
 
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