Mass Shooting & Gun Violence | Shooting at Brown University

[HandsonFire]

Seriously, though, we don’t know much about what the Brown shooter looks like from the videos. Heck, for years a lot of people thought the J6 bomber video had to be a woman (there were far left nut theories it was MTG).

Some far right ones thought it was a female FBI agent.

 

[donbosco]

 

[nycfan]

“… The reason they're not "admitting" it is because the law enforcement authorities interviewing all the witnesses determined it didn't fucking happen. The reason Brown took down some web pages is because you put a student's life in danger with your baseless lies. Get out of our fucking city, you tragedy-exploiting shameless fucks.”

 

[Calheel]

Most die pretty quickly but a few can last a while. There was a guy in Maine that killed like 14 people earlier this year and I think he lasted 48 hours. I think the Charleston Church shooter lasted a couple of days.

There was a guy in Montana that killed four or five people at a bar that lasted more than a week.

There's a cop in California that killed four or five cops and their family members and I think he lasted more than a week. And you can bet every cop in the state was looking for that guy.

And Eric Rudolph, the Olympic bomber, was obviously not a shooter but he lasted for 5 years.

So not unheard of to be a multi-day manhunt but pretty rare.

You are confusing serial/spree killers with mass shooters. Serial/spree -- by definition -- intend to survive the initial shooting and want to remain at large. Mass shootings tend to be single incidents in which the shooter is almost always caught/killed at the scene.

Of your above list, the Montana, Charleston and Maine would all fall into the mass category, but Rudolph and the California guy are spree/serial types.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

You are confusing serial/spree killers with mass shooters. Serial/spree -- by definition -- intend to survive the initial shooting and want to remain at large. Mass shootings tend to be single incidents in which the shooter is almost always caught/killed at the scene.

Of your above list, the Montana, Charleston and Maine would all fall into the mass category, but Rudolph and the California guy are spree/serial types.

I could see Eric Rudolph because of the planning involved and the Great lengths he went to remain anonymous but what's the difference between say the California shooter and the Charleston shooter in this context? Why is one a serial/spree shooter and the other one is a mass shooter?

 

[Calheel]

I could see Eric Rudolph because of the planning involved and the Great lengths he went to remain anonymous but what's the difference between say the California shooter and the Charleston shooter in this context? Why is one a serial/spree shooter and the other one is a mass shooter?

A spree shooter kills a bunch of people at different locations and different times. By definition, the spree shooter is moving places and is not trying to get caught at the first shooting. A mass shooter kills in one location that involves relative little movement (maybe going classroom to classroom, for example).

The guy in California (assuming we are thinking of the same guy, Christopher Dorner) killed the daughter of the police chief in an Irvine parking garage, then shot at cops at a couple of different locations and times about an hour away, before making a run for Big Bear and then getting into a shootout there. That is a classic spree shooting situation.