Mass Shooting & Gun Violence | Shooting at Concord Xmas Tree lighting

[ZZLPHeels]

Gee, I wonder what's different about Australia/Canada/England/Wales than the USA? Why is the USA so bad? Could it be ....

There are a lot of differences between the USA and the other places that you brought up. Cultural, legal, social, etc.

 

[UNCatTech]

The problem is that the criminals are already well-armed and would not be impacted at all by any legislation banning firearms. The result would be the law-abiding citizen is helpless to defend themselves against well-armed criminals. When seconds count, the police are minutes to hours away.

Yea, that's the lie that the right loves to use.

Studies show that a person with a gun in the home is more likely to harm themselves or a loved on than a criminal.
Statistics from the brady bill clearly showed a difference when that was law compared to before and after.

The idea that everyone can use a gun in self defense is ridiculous, First it takes training to even use a gun efficiently and effectively under normal conditions, it will be much harder in the face of danger with adrenalin amped up and your mind going into fight or flight mode. Very few are going to practice enough to be proficient with a gun and comfortable in the situation of defending their home.

Then there's the fact that a burglar, thief, or any other criminal who is committing a crime may also have a gun and be more skilled with it. I watched a video on social media (don't know the timing when this happened) where a guy got out of his car in a road rage incident with a gun, as he approached the other car the driver of the other car pulled out a gun, they both shot each other.

I'm not against gun ownership.

We need to change the laws to allow the archiving of gun crime data into databases for better study.

We need to change the narrative and stop letting the right control it with the "They will take your guns" bullshit. 99% of gun owners never use their gun to hurt another person, many believe in gun safety, change the narrative and we could get enough support for better, more consistent laws at a federal level.

And, I really believe, that those laws would reduce gun violence, without punishing safe gun owners and reducing the criminals willing to take the risk of using a gun to commit a crime.

So, basically I completely disagree with your premise.

When seconds count Bubba will probably shoot himself in the foot or shoot his sleeping wife and the criminal in his home will either escape or kill Bubba.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Yea, that's the lie that the right loves to use.

Studies show that a person with a gun in the home is more likely to harm themselves or a loved on than a criminal.
Statistics from the brady bill clearly showed a difference when that was law compared to before and after.

The idea that everyone can use a gun in self defense is ridiculous, First it takes training to even use a gun efficiently and effectively under normal conditions, it will be much harder in the face of danger with adrenalin amped up and your mind going into fight or flight mode. Very few are going to practice enough to be proficient with a gun and comfortable in the situation of defending their home.

Then there's the fact that a burglar, thief, or any other criminal who is committing a crime may also have a gun and be more skilled with it. I watched a video on social media (don't know the timing when this happened) where a guy got out of his car in a road rage incident with a gun, as he approached the other car the driver of the other car pulled out a gun, they both shot each other.

I'm not against gun ownership.

We need to change the laws to allow the archiving of gun crime data into databases for better study.

We need to change the narrative and stop letting the right control it with the "They will take your guns" bullshit. 99% of gun owners never use their gun to hurt another person, many believe in gun safety, change the narrative and we could get enough support for better, more consistent laws at a federal level.

And, I really believe, that those laws would reduce gun violence, without punishing safe gun owners and reducing the criminals willing to take the risk of using a gun to commit a crime.

So, basically I completely disagree with your premise.

When seconds count Bubba will probably shoot himself in the foot or shoot his sleeping wife and the criminal in his home will either escape or kill Bubba.

With adequate precautions in place, the odds of a gun in someone’s home harming someone in that home are essentially zero. Having been on the other end of an home invasion that was thwarted by our firearms, there is no scenario in which I would give that protection up. The police were in fact minutes away when seconds counted. Something that I have witnessed numerous times in my career. The first shooting I ever responded to involved a young woman home alone in broad daylight when two men kicked in her door while she was screaming and on the phone with 911. Once they broke through the door she shot the first man through and dropped him. The second one took off. Had she not been armed, the outcome would have been far different. This woman wasn’t specially trained, and neither is my wife.