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ZZLPHeels said:
Not true, California’s attempt to do just that just got struck down as unconstitutional.
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Says two Trump judges against one Bush judge. Let's see if the en banc court reaches a different result. It's impossible to read the dissenting opinion and not find it persuasive . . . even though it was written by a POS who I loathe, the guy who co-authored the infamous torture memos.
 
superrific said:
Says two Trump judges against one Bush judge. Let's see if the en banc court reaches a different result. It's impossible to read the dissenting opinion and not find it persuasive . . . even though it was written by a POS who I loathe, the guy who co-authored the infamous torture memos.
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Ikuta is a Bush appointee (and a nice person to boot).
 
gtyellowjacket said:
It being constitutional right is debatable. It is right now because the supreme Court says it is but who knows what happens in the future.

What isn't debatable is that we are currently able to regulate based on type. We highly regulate automatic weapons. Whose to say that we can't extend similar regulations to semi-auto. Well the Supreme Court could say it but they haven't said it yet.
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I guess anything is possible. But that is highly unlikely anytime soon so it does no good to argue hypotheticals. The issue should be debated based on a set of real or most likely parameters. Arguing pie in the sky variables is a waste of time and just further kicks the can down the road.
 
Callatoroy said:
I guess anything is possible. But that is highly unlikely anytime soon so it does no good to argue hypotheticals. The issue should be debated based on a set of real or most likely parameters. Arguing pie in the sky variables is a waste of time and just further kicks the can down the road.
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I don't think its impossible. The trend around the world is more gun regulations and not less as citizens see the costs of permissive gun policies. Admittedly, the US is going the other way, but there is definitely strong support for more gun regulations in the US, especially regionally. Calling tighter gun regulations pie in the sky tends to shut down debate on an issue that is far from settled.
 
hearing that there's been a shooting at the avalon pier in kill devil hills here on the outer banks.

extremely upsetting, my community has very little crime let alone gun violence.
 
I still have my avalon pier beer card I bought 6 years ago with 4 of 6 pre purchased beers avaliable. They said it never expired so I'm gonna hold them to that next time I go back!
 
4thgenheel said:
hearing that there's been a shooting at the avalon pier in kill devil hills here on the outer banks.

extremely upsetting, my community has very little crime let alone gun violence.
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The only news I can find is a story in the Hindustan Times. Kill Devil Hills shooting: Reports of shots fired at Avalon Fishing Pier

ETA - Actually, here is a local new story

My grandparents had a cottage about a half mile from there - I have been to the outer banks every year since I was born except two (the summer I took the CA Bar exam and the first year of Covid). That is certianly upsetting.
 
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it is definitely real, unfortunately. sounds like 1 dead and 1 critically injured. local on local crime, teenagers. really, really upsetting.

the lack of any official statement from KDHPD or the dare county sheriff's department or the state or SOMEONE is getting a bit absurd at this point.
 
4thgenheel said:
yeah, there's no one out there because it is closed. heavy police presence all over that area.
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But when the camera panned there were people on the beach at what seemed a pretty close distance to the pier. Later I checked back and there was one guy standing at the end of the pier.
 
lawtig02 said:
Come on, man. That's like saying, "Sure, it wasn't reasonable to think the guy shooting women in Kabul was trans, but you're doing the same thing by assuming he's Taliban."
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Update if interested. Sheriff statement says no evidence of white supremacy. Did say that he went into a fire station at one point to ask about becoming a firefighter, got frustrated with the instructions and left. Also tried to join the military a couple of times and got disqualified because he didn't show up to appointments. He left a couple of suicide notes but no definitive reason for the murders

people.com

Man Suspected of Opening Fire on Idaho Firefighters Believed He Was Going 'Into Battle': Authorities

Authorities in Idaho have released more details about the 20-year-old suspect who deliberately set a wildfire to ambush firefighters, killing two last month
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A shooting was reported at the Avalon Pier in Kill Devil Hills at 2:37 p.m. on Thursday, July 31. Local police departments and Dare County personnel responded to the call within four minutes.

According to Dana Harris, Assistant Police Chief for the Kill Devil Hills Police Department, the shooting resulted in one fatality and one person being airlifted to the hospital in Norfolk, Virginia, by Dare County Emergency Management Services (EMS) personnel.

Police at the scene collected descriptions from witnesses and were able to quickly identify the suspect, who fled the scene in his vehicle immediately after the shooting.

The suspect was stopped near the Southern Shores Police Department and apprehended.

The names of the suspect and victims will be released after family members are notified.
 
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