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“…GORKA: No ... when you concentrate at mass shootings at schools, specifically Christian or Catholic schools, then the data set is different

KEILAR: When you look at 32 school shootings since 2020, only 3 of them committed by transgender shooters

GORKA: Forgive me if I don't go with CNN's stats

KEILAR: It's simple math…”

Simple math is 3/32=.09. So 9% of those school shootings were committed by transgender shooters. Transgender people make up 0.8% of the population. That is statistically significant.
 
Simple math is 3/32=.09. So 9% of those school shootings were committed by transgender shooters. Transgender people make up 0.8% of the population. That is statistically significant.
1. Almost all school shooters are young. 5% of people under 30 identify as trans or nonbinary — About 5% of young adults in the U.S. say their gender is different from their sex assigned at birth

2. That said, I do think the number of trans/nonbinary school shooters recently is significant, whether statistically or not. A reasonable debate could be had about why that is. Trans people are more likely to suffer from mental illnesses that could manifest in violent tendencies (and no, transgenderism itself does not fit that category for multiple reasons). Trans people are also immensely more likely to be bullied, marginalized, and physically and emotionally harmed. There is never an excuse for violence, but one thing all of us could do to help is make sure we’re giving trans people the respect and support they deserve.
 
1. Almost all school shooters are young. 5% of people under 30 identify as trans or nonbinary — About 5% of young adults in the U.S. say their gender is different from their sex assigned at birth

2. That said, I do think the number of trans/nonbinary school shooters recently is significant, whether statistically or not. A reasonable debate could be had about why that is. Trans people are more likely to suffer from mental illnesses that could manifest in violent tendencies (and no, transgenderism itself does not fit that category for multiple reasons). Trans people are also immensely more likely to be bullied, marginalized, and physically and emotionally harmed. There is never an excuse for violence, but one thing all of us could do to help is make sure we’re giving trans people the respect and support they deserve.
I agree on both counts. I'm not trying to come after transgender people. But if you (not you, but the person in the tweet posted above) are going to bring out numbers to argue with someone you better be sure that you fully understand what those numbers mean.
 
I agree on both counts. I'm not trying to come after transgender people. But if you (not you, but the person in the tweet posted above) are going to bring out numbers to argue with someone you better be sure that you fully understand what those numbers mean.
Fair, but the fact Gorka did not respond with your observation, but instead a blanket, inaccurate attack on transgenderism writ large, seems to me to be the most important part of that exchange.
 


“…GORKA: No ... when you concentrate at mass shootings at schools, specifically Christian or Catholic schools, then the data set is different

KEILAR: When you look at 32 school shootings since 2020, only 3 of them committed by transgender shooters

GORKA: Forgive me if I don't go with CNN's stats

KEILAR: It's simple math…”

Why would ANY reputable journalistic network, publication, or website interview Gorka?
 
Simple math is 3/32=.09. So 9% of those school shootings were committed by transgender shooters. Transgender people make up 0.8% of the population. That is statistically significant.
Is it? Did you run a sensitivity analysis? What variables did include in your regression? What were your error bars?
 
Ring and run prank turns deadly

Boy Shot During ‘Ding Dong Ditch’ Prank in Texas Has Died​

The police in Houston detained a person after an 11-year-old boy was shot on Saturday night, officials said.


“… In the doorbell ditch prank, better known as ding dong ditch, a person rings a doorbell and tries to run away before anyone opens the door.

Lt. Amber Khan of the Houston Police Department told KHOU, a local CBS affiliate, at the scene, that the “person inside that house came out and shot at” the boy. She said he had a “a couple of gunshot wounds.”

It was not immediately clear if there were any other injuries in the shooting.

The statement on Sunday said one person at the scene was detained for questioning and then released. The police on Monday did not have information about whether there were any arrests.

The ding dong ditch prank, which has been popularized on TikTok, has led to other tragedies in the past.…”
 
We’re just erasing centuries of adolescent behavior, in favor of crediting TikTok?
Yeah, I actually considered not including that part of the article for that reason but had a similar reaction ring and run has been a stupid adolescent game for my lifetime, don’t want to project back into prior history, but decades before social media. But part of the coverage of this story seems to be the TikTok angle.

The only angle should be that some person shot an 11-year-old kid IN THE BACK AS HE RAN AWAY for the terrifying crime of ringing the doorbell at night … and said shooter was released after questioning and (TBD) may not be charged with anything.
 
this is what "defending your home and loved ones" looks like, right?

Far too many take this over the top permeant action against something that a deep breath and a minute to cool down would remedy.

I hope this fucker get's the death penalty. And they should do it the same way, have him ring a door bell and someone open the door and blow his fucking head off. Give him time to think about how stupid his actions were right up until the door opens. Then his last few seconds he can experience what he put that child through. What a fucked up world we live in.
 
I read an idea online. We should call these murders post term abortions, that might get the right upset enough to do something about them.
 
Yes, we have a quack running HHS.

Yes we should keep males out of female locker rooms and female sports.

No, that is not attacking anybody, it's following the science.
Got to put your bullshit trans hatred in every fucking thread don't you? WHY, can you post on a thread and stay on topic and stop trying to spread your hatred? WE ALL KNOW YOU HATE TRANS PEOPLE, YOU DON'T NEED TO KEEP REPEATING YOURSELF.

This is a thread about gun violence and you post about trans women in bathrooms, what's your problem? Can't you separate that into it's own issue? Is it so embedded in your mind that you have to think about it as a part of every topic in the world?

You know, you're almost a decent poster if you stay away from that subject. You really need to seek help in understanding why that subject is such a part of your very being.
 
Got to put your bullshit trans hatred in every fucking thread don't you? WHY, can you post on a thread and stay on topic and stop trying to spread your hatred? WE ALL KNOW YOU HATE TRANS PEOPLE, YOU DON'T NEED TO KEEP REPEATING YOURSELF.

This is a thread about gun violence and you post about trans women in bathrooms, what's your problem? Can't you separate that into it's own issue? Is it so embedded in your mind that you have to think about it as a part of every topic in the world?

You know, you're almost a decent poster if you stay away from that subject. You really need to seek help in understanding why that subject is such a part of your very being.
I'm not even sure how I would "hate" trans as a concept. I don't hate anyone one trans person because they are trans. I don't hate any person because they are gay, straight, black, white, male, female, etc.

I also don't allow any one person's characteristic(s), or emotional response to those characteristics, to impact my beliefs of what's right or wrong.

So, yes, it stinks that a trans female can't compete in female sports ...but, oh well, feelings don't determine right and wrong.
 
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I'm not even sure how I would "hate" trans as a concept. I don't hate anyone one teams person because they are trans. I don't hate any person because they are gay, straight, black, white, male, female, etc.

I also don't allow any one person's characteristic(s), or emotional response to those characteristics, to impact my beliefs of what's right or wrong.

So, yes, it stinks that a trans female can't compete in female sports ...but, oh well, feelings don't determine right and wrong.
Neither does what you are claiming does as you continually defend what is wrong.
 
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