Mass Shooting & Gun Violence

[gtyellowjacket]

Who is Joshua Jahn? (From Al-Jazeera): Who is Joshua Jahn? What we know about the Dallas ICE facility shooting

Who is Joshua Jahn? (From Fox): Who was Joshua Jahn, shooter in deadly Dallas ICE facility attack?

I must have been living under a rock. I don't remember this incident at all and it seems like it would be major.

“We are only miles from Prairieland, Texas where just two months ago an individual [it was actually 11 different people with a few AR-15s] ambushed a separate ICE facility targeting their officers.” On July 4, ICE said nearly a dozen individuals armed with tactical gear and weapons attacked its Prairieland facility, injuring an officer, who survived.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

BTW....the Al-Jazeera link above is far, far more informative than the Fox one.

One thing I noticed is comments from congressman on both sides of the aisle pleading for calm and an end to these political assassinations while Trump administration officials were intent on pointing fingers at the left. Would be great if Congress folks got more traction isolating the bomb throwers in the White House.

 

[donbosco]

One thing I noticed is comments from congressman on both sides of the aisle pleading for calm and an end to these political assassinations while Trump administration officials were intent on pointing fingers at the left. Would be great if Congress folks got more traction isolating the bomb throwers in the White House.

I took note of that as well...assassination possibilities serving to sober up fanatics perhaps?

Also

"“We are only miles from Prairieland, Texas where just two months ago an individual [it was actually 11 different people with a few AR-15s] ambushed a separate ICE facility targeting their officers.” On July 4, ICE said nearly a dozen individuals armed with tactical gear and weapons attacked its Prairieland facility, injuring an officer, who survived."

I too missed this. Seems it would have been very big news.

That quotation appears to be attributed to Patel. I'm suspicious. He's not a valid source of information. I would, however, expect Al-Jazeera to check him on it.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

I took note of that as well...assassination possibilities serving to sober up fanatics perhaps?

Also

"“We are only miles from Prairieland, Texas where just two months ago an individual [it was actually 11 different people with a few AR-15s] ambushed a separate ICE facility targeting their officers.” On July 4, ICE said nearly a dozen individuals armed with tactical gear and weapons attacked its Prairieland facility, injuring an officer, who survived."

I too missed this. Seems it would have been very big news.

That quotation appears to be attributed to Patel. I'm suspicious. He's not a valid source of information. I would, however, expect Al-Jazeera to check him on it.

I didn't remember it so I looked it up. It's legit. It was like 11 people at a protest. I think it started off with insults and fireworks and then escalated to a couple of guys shooting ar-15s. It's possible the fireworks were meant to draw out ice agents so they could assassinate them. A responding police officer was shot in the neck but survived.

10 arrested in connection with Texas detention center shooting that was 'planned ambush,' U.S. attorney says

A police officer was wounded in a shooting outside of a Texas immigration detention center, where people in black military-style clothing fired at authorities.

www.pbs.org

 

[donbosco]

And how do you confuse "an individual" with "11 different people with a few AR-15s?"

 

[donbosco]

So the imprecision of the quotation would indicate we should most definitely attribute it to Patel.


What a fucking moron.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

And how do you confuse "an individual" with "11 different people with a few AR-15s?"

It's possible that there was a group of people protesting and that one or two people were actually in the murdering mood. That's what six of the group claimed in a recent court hearing.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

I took note of that as well...assassination possibilities serving to sober up fanatics perhaps?

I hope this isn't the case and that the Congressmen are truly hoping to dial back the rhetoric but it's possible that White House administration officials have much better security protection than Congressional officials.

 

[donbosco]

Patel is just another embarrassment.

 

[theel4life]

Left bad right good

 

[BlooVooDoo]

I must have been living under a rock. I don't remember this incident at all and it seems like it would be major.

“We are only miles from Prairieland, Texas where just two months ago an individual [it was actually 11 different people with a few AR-15s] ambushed a separate ICE facility targeting their officers.” On July 4, ICE said nearly a dozen individuals armed with tactical gear and weapons attacked its Prairieland facility, injuring an officer, who survived.

Politics Post in thread 'CURRENT EVENTS July 6 - July 13'

Jul 9, 2025

10 Charged With Attempted Murder in Officer Shooting at ICE Detention Center​

One police officer was wounded after at least two people shot at officers outside an immigration detention center in Texas, according to a criminal complaint in federal court.

10 Charged With Attempted Murder in Officer Shooting at ICE Detention Center

One police officer was wounded after at least two people shot at officers outside an immigration detention center in Texas, according to a criminal complaint in federal court.

www.nytimes.com

10 arrested in connection with Texas detention center shooting that was ‘planned ambush,’ U.S. attorney says​

...

• nycfan

• 

 

[nycfan]

I must have been living under a rock. I don't remember this incident at all and it seems like it would be major.

“We are only miles from Prairieland, Texas where just two months ago an individual [it was actually 11 different people with a few AR-15s] ambushed a separate ICE facility targeting their officers.” On July 4, ICE said nearly a dozen individuals armed with tactical gear and weapons attacked its Prairieland facility, injuring an officer, who survived.

Never mind, see post above.

 

[WaynetheDrain]

Temporary only​

What is a “detention facility” versus a “field office / processing site”?​

• ICE has a formal list of Detention Facilities — these are locations designated to hold people in ICE custody for extended periods (for immigration proceedings, removal, etc.). ICE+1
• These detention facilities tend to be structured, with infrastructure for secure custody, defined visitor protocols, oversight, and longer stays. ICE+1
• A field office usually refers to a regional or local ICE office that carries out enforcement, casework, coordination, and sometimes processing of individuals who have been arrested or detained. These offices are not primarily built for long-term detention.
• The field office in Dallas, as described, is not among ICE’s detention facilities and is used for processing and interim holding — consistent with the “temporary holding” characterization.

Notable Protests​

1. Mahmoud Khalil protest, April 2025
   Activists gathered outside the Dallas ICE office to demand the release of Mahmoud Khalil, a Columbia University graduate student whose visa was revoked. They held signs, chanted, and drew attention to his case. Dallas News
2. Dallas Observer coverage, May 2025
   Another protest outside the same field office in May where ~50 people gathered calling for Khalil’s release. Dallas Observer

Im sure the detainees of that facility find it very accommodating.

Stop being so naive.

 

[nycfan]

Politics Post in thread 'CURRENT EVENTS July 6 - July 13'

Jul 9, 2025

10 Charged With Attempted Murder in Officer Shooting at ICE Detention Center​

One police officer was wounded after at least two people shot at officers outside an immigration detention center in Texas, according to a criminal complaint in federal court.

10 Charged With Attempted Murder in Officer Shooting at ICE Detention Center

One police officer was wounded after at least two people shot at officers outside an immigration detention center in Texas, according to a criminal complaint in federal court.

www.nytimes.com

10 arrested in connection with Texas detention center shooting that was ‘planned ambush,’ U.S. attorney says​

...

• nycfan

• 

“… According to the criminal complaint, the events leading to the charges began on Friday at 10:37 p.m., when about 10 to 12 people shot fireworks toward the detention center. Ten minutes later, one or two people separated from the group and tagged vehicles and a guard structure with graffiti, writing “Ice pig” on one car and “traitor” on another.

Around 10:58 p.m., two unarmed correctional officers tried to talk to the two people who had damaged the cars, court records said.

At about the same time, an officer from the Alvarado Police Department arrived at the detention center’s parking lot, according to court records. After the officer got out of a vehicle, a person who was in the woods next to the center opened fire, wounding the officer in the neck. Another person, standing near an intersection just outside the woods, shot at the correctional officers, the criminal complaint said. Investigators said they later found spent 5.56-caliber casings, which are typically used with AR-15-style rifles, where both of the shooters had been.…

… At about 11:10 p.m., officers found seven other people on foot at an intersection about 300 yards west of where the shooting happened, court records said. Some were armed and wearing black military-style clothing and body armor.

Mark Osler, a former federal prosecutor in Detroit who is a law professor at the University of St. Thomas in Minneapolis, said that prosecutors had two routes for pursuing attempted murder charges for those who had not shot at the officers.

If the defendants are found to have aided and abetted an attempted murder, they can face the charge. Or the attempted murder can be prosecuted as a conspiracy if it is shown that it was a coordinated action.…”

 

[nycfan]

BTW....the Al-Jazeera link above is far, far more informative than the Fox one.

From the link:

“… Court records show Jahn was arrested in 2015 for delivering marijuana to buyers. In 2016, he admitted to delivering between a quarter-ounce (7g) and five pounds (2.3kg). He was given five years of probation and a $500 fine.

… As Jahn’s name began circulating online, his older brother, Noah Jahn, spoke with a Reuters reporter. Noah, 30, who lives in McKinney, Texas – about 48km (30 miles) north of Dallas – said he was unaware of his brother having any negative feelings towards ICE.

“I didn’t know he had any political intent at all,” Noah said.

“He’s a young kid, a thousand miles from home, didn’t really seem to have any direction, living out of his car at such a young age,” Ryan Sanderson, who met him in 2017, told The Associated Press news agency.

“I don’t remember him being that abnormal. He didn’t seem to fight with anyone or cause trouble. He kept his head down and stayed working.”…”

 

[superrific]

It's always darkly comical to see right-wingers saying things like, "stop your rhetoric about ICE being fascists; it's causing people to say."

For some reason, they never say, "stop wearing masks and forcibly shoving people into unmarked vans without warrants, frequently with excessive force." You know, the types of things that might inspire people to be really angry and to see them as fascists.

 

[donbosco]

This one must be a particularly tough "fit" for the trumpistas.

 

[nycfan]

 

[Icky Mettle]

Every time I see that decor, I cringe.

 

[nycfan]

“… The liberal media is complicit in the increased threats and violence against ICE. We see it every day — they are quick to write a fake story portraying ICE in a negative light, often omitting the real facts of these cases, and they hardly ever write about the vicious criminals that ICE is arresting every day to make our country safer.”