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ZZLPHeels said:
Guarantee that none of the guns used in that shooting were owned legally by those high schoolers. Gang culture is the problem.
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It was a fight......that escalated to guns. Don't think there would have been equal death and mayhem if two gangs fought it out with fists. So are gang issues settled with fists equal to gang issues settled with guns. I don't really give a shit whether the guns were obtained legally or not. They were, I suspect, easily procured, and then used. Guns or fists, guns or fists? Gangs and guns or gangs and fists, which creates more death? What's the common denominator?
 
tarheelbillie said:
The question! Why the hell are Americans so insecure? Answer that and we’ll know the road to recovery from this craziness.

Nearest thing to a gun I have had was a Rottweiler mix…I think. If you had entered my home uninvited you might have thought you needed a gun. He sounded like a bad ass…might have been.

But I grew up with guns. And my brother-in-law managed to shoot himself through the hand with a pistol. My brother handed my dad a loaded rifle just before I heard a bullet zing over my head.

But, I don’t feel insecure. And, I understand that gun owners are at much greater risk of being shot than non-owners. “Research has suggested that individuals who possess a gun are more than four times more likely to be shot in an assault, challenging the notion that carrying a weapon always provides protective benefits”-ncgvr.org.
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It's a great question, and one I've wondered about from time to time. We live in the most powerful nation on Earth, and yet there is a deep-rooted fear and sense of insecurity in so many Americans, even among some who are relatively prosperous. It's not just in the obsession with owning guns, it's also the psychological need of many people to own huge trucks and SUVs when they don't really need anything that large, and how quickly so many people are to assume that others are looking down on them and think they're better than them. And the clannish suspicion of anyone who doesn't look like you or behave like you. There's a kind of paranoia that runs through our culture and society and affects how we see people who aren't like us, and affects (I think) how we deal with foreigners. There's always some "other", some "boogeyman" who is out to get us - either break into our house and get us, even if we live in a safe neighborhood, always some threat. And politicians like Trump have for generations played on that fear to obtain great power. I've sometimes wondered if that paranoia won't ultimately prove to be our undoing as a society and nation.
 
Do any of the Winston people on here know a Jay Moore? I was listening to NPR this morning and they had a segment that apparently was national and they interviewed a Jay Moore from Winston who said, and I quote "I don't believe in gun laws. The problem is there's too many guns and kids have access to them". No hint of irony whatsoever.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
Guarantee that none of the guns used in that shooting were owned legally by those high schoolers. Gang culture is the problem.
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The typical ZZL poster is far removed from the lifestyle that the these kids live that it’s almost pointless to have this discussion. These kids have nothing - no future, many have parents that don’t care. Their lifestyle is built around quick money and respect.
 
Willy said:
The typical ZZL poster is far removed from the lifestyle that the these kids live that it’s almost pointless to have this discussion. These kids have nothing - no future, many have parents that don’t care. Their lifestyle is built around quick money and respect.
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Parody post? I thought you were referring to the politicians looking for the quick buck instead of working for the people.

There have been so many mass murders. This one signifies the abject poverty in Shreveport coupled with the availability of guns, including assault weapons.

...coupled with State and Federal politicians that have squandered opportunity for the people, while lining their pockets. Louisiana has a largely undiversified economy with significant pockets of poverty. It's not a surprise that states with areas of profound poverty that are endemic, and are overrun with guns, lead the nation in per capita mass shootings: Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina (drive on Hwy 1 from the NC border to Columbia and you'll see families living in abandoned school buses), Illinois, (South Side of Chi-town) Missouri, Maryland.

Poverty is a futile cycle that politicians leverage (both ways) every 4 years before an election. But when it's America Last and Politicians' Corrupt Pockets First (thanks, Citizens United)...as they said on Archer..."this is how you get ants."
 
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Willy said:
The typical ZZL poster is far removed from the lifestyle that the these kids live that it’s almost pointless to have this discussion. These kids have nothing - no future, many have parents that don’t care. Their lifestyle is built around quick money and respect.
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Many people underestimate what it means to not be respected in the gang riddled, inner city areas. It can be a death sentence. If someone disrespects you, you basically have to respond/retaliate.
 
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