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Is there any possibility the attorneys involved in crafting this quid pro quo could face sanctions or even disbarment?
Mayor Eric Adams Dropped Case | Judge appoints Amicus
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Given the disclosures in the case, and Sassoon's letter, I have trouble believing that the judge will grant the motion.
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absolutely. It's insane that Bove put that shit in writing.
The judge can't force the prosecutors to prosecute, so if the case isn't dismissed, the judge doesn't have a lot of remedies. If he holds the prosecutors in contempt, Trump will just pardon.
It was a little different in the Flynn case because Flynn had already pled guilty. It was ultimately mooted by Trump pardoning Flynn.
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Everybody involved in this fiasco deserves no less than public lynching by a mob. I don't care what anyone thinks of me for saying so. This shit is so brazenly beyond the pale of ANYTHING acceptable in even a banana republic.
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At least Bove had to put his name on it, the fucking prick.
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I'm curious as to why Hochul never removed him.
I'm also curious as to whether the Turkish donors allegedly bribing him received anything other than an expedited fire permit for a building that didn't qualify for it at the time, but currently does. I don't recall seeing anything else mentioned. Wining and dining a politician for an expedited fire permit may not be legal but it's not like he was selling classified information here.
I also find very surprising that fact that the indictment alleged that he took $10,000,000 in public election funds via matching contributions from the Turkish donors via straw men. But the maximum matching funds he could receive from the city was $12 million total, regardless of who donated. So he would have had to line up literally 40,000 straw men donors, and received no legitimate matching funds at all, in order to have stolen $10 million in public money. What really happened is the SDNY threw that figure in the indicictment because it sounded bad without breaking down how much of the matching money was actually fraudulent. That's just bush league, and the media ran with it. I'm sure there was some amount of illegal matching money but certainly not all of it. And I would guess that based on the fact that they put the entire amount he received in the indictment, rather than the actual fraudulent amount, means either the actual fraudulent amount is miniscule or they don't even know the actual fraudulent amount.
I think this case definitely needed a trial in a court of law because I'm not really buying the media's version of the case. I'm not saying it's right to outright dismiss it but this just doesn't seem like high level corruption to me.
I'm also curious as to whether the Turkish donors allegedly bribing him received anything other than an expedited fire permit for a building that didn't qualify for it at the time, but currently does. I don't recall seeing anything else mentioned. Wining and dining a politician for an expedited fire permit may not be legal but it's not like he was selling classified information here.
I also find very surprising that fact that the indictment alleged that he took $10,000,000 in public election funds via matching contributions from the Turkish donors via straw men. But the maximum matching funds he could receive from the city was $12 million total, regardless of who donated. So he would have had to line up literally 40,000 straw men donors, and received no legitimate matching funds at all, in order to have stolen $10 million in public money. What really happened is the SDNY threw that figure in the indicictment because it sounded bad without breaking down how much of the matching money was actually fraudulent. That's just bush league, and the media ran with it. I'm sure there was some amount of illegal matching money but certainly not all of it. And I would guess that based on the fact that they put the entire amount he received in the indictment, rather than the actual fraudulent amount, means either the actual fraudulent amount is miniscule or they don't even know the actual fraudulent amount.
I think this case definitely needed a trial in a court of law because I'm not really buying the media's version of the case. I'm not saying it's right to outright dismiss it but this just doesn't seem like high level corruption to me.
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No, but the judge doesn't have to dismiss the indictment. The indictment can still stand, idle so to speak.
The hilarious thing is that Hochul now has no choice but to remove him, so Bove ended up getting nothing for all of that
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Oh, good, another armchair lawyer who doesn't know a fucking thing about the case or the law opining that the "media's version" is bullshit. Here's an idea. Read the fucking indictment and get a clue. Then you don't have to make shit up.
Note the BRIBERY allegations. Theft allegations. Conspiracy allegations. Federal Program Bribery.
Note also -- and this is a good reason to shut up when you don't know any of the facts -- the public money was amplified by 8 (8x match). Up to 2,000 per donor. So that's 5K donors required, not 40K. Hmm. Maybe you should read before deciding that the SDNY was being "bush league."
I mean, what the fuck is wrong with you? This sort of intentional ignorance just irritates me to no end. We're living in an age of tyranny and you're sitting here doing your own research about bribery allegations you know nothing about? No, scratch that -- you're not even doing any research at all. You're just concluding that SDNY was making things up because you did a back of the envelope calculation based on false assumptions, speculated about a few things, completely invented motives for the prosecutors whom you know nothing about.
Seriously. The gall, the chutzpah, the arrogance on display here -- it's just astounding. I would never be caught dead in a hundred years making this kind of shit up, and if I somehow did I would probably die of embarrassment upon learning of it. Hey -- the world is an incredibly dangerous place right now. The country is sliding into a corrupt monarchy. Get with the program motherfucker.
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For reference on the process for the governor to remove the mayor, in case it becomes relevant — it is clearly contemplated but no real
Mechanic is prescribed and it hasn’t been done for nearly a century:
Mechanic is prescribed and it hasn’t been done for nearly a century:
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Hochul is moving very cautiously so far (and there is already a regularly scheduled mayoral election in the Fall) …
Many Want Hochul to Force Adams From Office. She Isn’t Rushing.
Although Gov. Kathy Hochul has the power to begin removal proceedings against Mayor Eric Adams, doing so would test history, time and her own preference.
Many Want Hochul to Force Adams From Office. She Isn’t Rushing.
Although Gov. Kathy Hochul has the power to begin removal proceedings against Mayor Eric Adams, doing so would test history, time and her own preference.“… Ms. Hochul, a Democrat, called the allegations “extremely concerning and serious,” and was soliciting views from powerful fellow Democrats and her closest advisers.
But five people familiar with the governor’s thinking said that Ms. Hochul favored a deliberative path.
She had not yet concluded that Mr. Adams was posing the kind of urgent threat to the city’s governance to warrant an intervention that could unleash far-reaching practical, legal and political consequences, according to the people, who were not authorized to discuss her position publicly. …”
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Also, because politics are rarely straightforward and in NYC politics are often a Byzantine mess: “… It could also set off a string of political events that could lead to one of her top rivals, former Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo, becoming mayor. …”
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I know, but she has no choice now. Homan went on TV and basically said Adams was his stooge. Bove admitted in writing that the only reason for dismissal was political gain. She might want to move deliberately, but Trump is right now mayor of NYC and that's just not a tenable position.
She might want to give the impression of deliberate speed, and I'm sure she's got a fight over congestion pricing in the back of her mind (not wanting to invite a legal fight there, even though she would be sure to win), but still -- it's not tenable and the political pressure will grow and grow.
Pretty sure Bove didn’t have a choice on this one. The instructions came from Trump.
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GIFT LINK 
—> Read Danielle Sassoon’s Letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi, Annotated
Annotated Sasoon resignation letter is worth a review.
—> Read Danielle Sassoon’s Letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi, AnnotatedAnnotated Sasoon resignation letter is worth a review.
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Then again, Bove has a history …He went pretty far for a guy just following orders, according to Sassoon’s letter:
TRUMP JUSTICE DEPARTMENT APPOINTEE OVERSAW “SYSTEMIC” MISCONDUCT IN PREVIOUS JOB
Trump’s attorney, Emil Bove, may be No. 3 at DOJ. A judge blamed him for “grave derelictions of prosecutorial responsibility.”
Trump Justice Department Appointee Oversaw “Systemic” Misconduct in Previous Job
Trump’s attorney, Emil Bove, may be No. 3 at DOJ. A judge blamed him for “grave derelictions of prosecutorial responsibility.”
theintercept.com
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during his last stint as a supervising prosecutor, Bove oversaw a case that was so mired by prosecutorial misconduct that a judge diagnosed it an “institutional failure.”
For just over two years, Bove was one of two chiefs of the terrorism and international narcotics unit in the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, as Trump highlighted in a statementlast month. It was there that Bove supervised a case involving alleged evasion of sanctions, which a federal judge slammed as “marred by repeated failures to disclose exculpatory evidence.”
The government so thoroughly botched its constitutional obligation to turn over evidence that prosecutors asked the court to vacate a jury verdict. The defendant, Ali Sadr, had been convicted on multiple counts of evading sanctions against Iran.
“The supervising Unit Chiefs appear to have offered little in the way of supervision,” wrotethen-District Court Judge Alison Nathan, who has since been elevated to the federal appellate bench, in 2021. A few months earlier, the judge noted “insufficient supervision” as a significant factor in the “disclosure-related issues that plagued the prosecution in this case.”
Nathan ultimately found there were “grave derelictions of prosecutorial responsibility” and “systemic” prosecutorial misconduct in the case, although it did not rise to the level of intentional misconduct.
… Less than a year after the blistering ruling, Bove left the Justice Department for private practice, and he joined Trump’s legal team soon after. …”
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Also re-posting this apparent Quid Pro Quo moment on Fox for reference
The Sassoon letter about Bove’s explanation of the dismissal (without prejudice) makes it harder to write this off as Homan and Adams just chuckling about a gentleman’s agreement.
The Sassoon letter about Bove’s explanation of the dismissal (without prejudice) makes it harder to write this off as Homan and Adams just chuckling about a gentleman’s agreement.
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Second resignation letter to note on this front — from a conservative former clerk of John Roberts:
He seems to think Trump could be forgiven for a transactional view of this matter, but Bove could not.