Media Coverage of Politics & Elections

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altmin said:
Joy Reid talking tonight about BS coverage from the NY Times about black voters drifted away from harris to Trump, and how it is based on cherry picked and meager polling.
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True polling seems to show a lack of enthusiasm, for Harris, on the part of black voters more than black voters flowing to Trump.
 
nycfan said:
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I hate to be so cynical, but I'm less sure that the problem is that they don't know how to "communicate the perilousness" as that they just don't care and are perfectly willing to accept another Trump term in exchange for the higher ratings and website hits and subscriptions that he brings. Add in that more and more of our news media is being bought by right-wingers or is placing right-wingers in charge of their newsrooms and editorial content and here we are.
 


In my experience, Smerconish views it as centrist to adopt the take Trump seriously but not literally posture (with a built in assumption that Trump means well), giving Trump a pass for virtually all his incendiary and offensive rhetoric.
 
Maldonado telling on himself and revealing a key part of Trump’s appeal.

I think there is a large portion of the American population who gravitate towards the language of strong men and authoritarianism.

To Maldonado, Trump is “telling it like it is” AKA saying things that we are all thinking but no one has the balls to say.

Maldonado wants an authoritarian leader, as long as they are doing the things that he wants. As long as they are doing what they believe is “common sense” based on their own reactionary tendencies.
 
nycfan said:




Cooper: “how you feel is not factually correct”
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The second clip here is a perfect example of how frustrating it can be trying to discuss issues with Trump supporters. As soon as you point out their bullshit is just that, they revert to "well that's how I feel and there are lots of people who feel like I do". Like that's some kind of confirmation of their bullshit. Kudos to Cooper for calling it out for what it is.
 
Enigma94 said:
The second clip here is a perfect example of how frustrating it can be trying to discuss issues with Trump supporters. As soon as you point out their bullshit is just that, they revert to "well that's how I feel and there are lots of people who feel like I do". Like that's some kind of confirmation of their bullshit. Kudos to Cooper for calling it out for what it is.
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It's almost like uber-Pubs came up with a pithy phrase to address this phenomenon before they wholesale embraced it.

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Illithor said:
Ha! Ben threw his famous slogan out the window over the past year with his Israel/Bibi homerism.
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I know Ben is becoming a gazillionaire on the backs of his gullible followers so it's probably all worth it to him, but his moral and intellectual debasement over the last few years has been a sight to behold. Ben is to conservative media what Vance is to conservative electoral politics.
 
lawtig02 said:
I know Ben is becoming a gazillionaire on the backs of his gullible followers so it's probably all worth it to him, but his moral and intellectual debasement over the last few years has been a sight to behold. Ben is to conservative media what Vance is to conservative electoral politics.
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I’ve tried to convince some of my conservative friends that Ben is just a very effective grifter with no real principles.
 
Illithor said:
I’ve tried to convince some of my conservative friends that Ben is just a very effective grifter with no real principles.
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For balancing my consumption, Ben was a go to circa 2016 election cycle. That manosphere just has too many sponsors to resist, I guess.

First, everyone wanted to be Limbaugh, then the demographics and consumption habits changed and folks saw the $$$$$ in going viral. It’s created a lot of dumb dumb content dressed up as “telling it like it is”, and making bold claims in hopes that getting it right a few times engenders long la$ting credibility.
 
HeelingAg said:
For balancing my consumption, Ben was a go to circa 2016 election cycle. That manosphere just has too many sponsors to resist, I guess.

First, everyone wanted to be Limbaugh, then the demographics and consumption habits changed and folks saw the $$$$$ in going viral. It’s created a lot of dumb dumb content dressed up as “telling it like it is”, and making bold claims in hopes that getting it right a few times engenders long la$ting credibility.
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Same. Ben used to be a good source for smart commentary on conservative politics. I can't make it through the first five minutes of his podcasts now. It's like an ultra-right wing Cookie Monster on bath salts.
 
lawtig02 said:
Same. Ben used to be a good source for smart commentary on conservative politics. I can't make it through the first five minutes of his podcasts now. It's like an ultra-right wing Cookie Monster on bath salts.
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But as you point out, a billionaire Cookie Monster (well, most likely not a billionaire, but getting there).
 
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