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MAGAS want a Caudillo: "...a short definition: A Personalistic, Populist Leader often with a military background, or at least a martial bearing, whom people follow with a nigh cult-like devotion. The Caudillo's political ideology can be virtually anything and may even be essentially absent, undeveloped, or simply opportunistic. The Caudillo's power rests in the numbers of his backers and their own willingness to do his bidding. "
 
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It does nothing of the sort.

We're sitting here on a thread about a guy who just killed people in order to flip a legislature. Literally it just happened. Pretending he is an insane person isn't going to help make that go away. The problem is specifically that his actions are rational. That's a fact. If we don't want to glorify it, we should probably give some thought to reforming the various systems to insulate against the possibility.
I’m too tired to get into it and I don’t claim that ChatGPT doesn’t have a host of problems when looking to it for information but I thought I would ask it’s thoughts on your text to see what our AI overlord‘s thought. I asked the question “Do you have any thoughts on the below text?” so as not to frame it in anyway. This was the result:

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I would just ask that you consider your language in the future. Thanks.
 
Yeah, well, nothing in my post justified or encouraged anything. Calling something rational is not the same as endorsing it. It was rational for Mitch McConnell to filibuster everything. It was rational for him to refuse to have a vote on Garland. And for that reason, the problem has not gone away. We now just accept 60 votes as a threshold for Senate action. I don't think that's in any way right, but if it were the actions of a lunatic it wouldn't be anything to worry about. The problem is quite obviously that it's not.

How can you stop that problem? Well, the only solution is doing away with the filibuster. Which isn't going to happen if we don't talk about how the filibuster will be abused.

Nobody who knows me could possibly think I was glorifying Gustavo Princip. Nobody who reads that comment would interpret it as saying "attaboy" or "we need more of this." Ignoring the problem will never make it go away. It will never stop anyone with an extremist and violent personality from reading the history books, realizing that Princip did actually achieve his goal. A monumental cost to mankind, perhaps the most horrible war ever fought (save maybe Iran-Iraq), but furthering the cause of Serbian independence. And while I do not expect anyone to copycat him, someone could try a lesser version (or what they think to be a lesser version). Again, because a person who doesn't care all that much about a body count (e.g. Hamas, Netanyahu, etc) but does care about some abstract goal can form their own judgments. They aren't waiting for my approval.

Another guy who achieved his goals through violence was named Osama Bin Laden. 9/11 was, long-term, more spectacularly effective in advancing his horrible agenda than he probably could have dreamed. He fortunately didn't live long enough to see Trump, but he would surely have been thrilled. So maybe back in 2002-03, people should have been saying, "use of war as a partisan political cudgel is exactly what OBL wants us to do," which was a sentiment I rarely heard. There was plenty of debate about the should, but nobody tying it to the expressed goal of the attack. I remember when I read OBL's manifesto, I thought he was a lunatic. And then I saw his prophecy come true/intent was successful. If that's glorifying OBL I don't know what to say.
 
They do know? I had to think about it, and I know a lot about WWI.
I thought "He actually did free Serbia from Austrian domination" would have given it away but I guess not. It probably would have helped had I supplied a first name.
 
The Supreme Court of Georgia, like all states, requires attorneys to swear to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States.” I cannot imagine how Ram can continue practicing in good faith after what he has said about his partner’s complicity in the effort to steal Georgia’s electoral votes in 2000.
Let it go for your mental health….Trump won and your lawfare lost - badly.
 
Let it go for your mental health….Trump won and your lawfare lost - badly.
Again with the lost badly bullshit. More eligavle voters skipped the election than voted for trump. Trump winning doesn't change the fact that trying to change the 2020 election was wrong.

How is the maga cult so bad at math?
 
No way Trump ever pardons Boelter. The jury is still out whether he's even MAGA. I'm seeing photos on line with Boelter in a "Resist" t-shirt standing by his wife in a "I think therefore I am a Democrat" t-shirt. Could be fake so I'm not posting them nor putting 100% stock in them...yet. I just don't see someone as MAGA if they have "No King" fliers in their car. It doesn't add up. We're likely going to learn more about this weirdo/killer in the coming weeks.

Feds need to try him since it brings the death penalty into play.
I saw the pic of him with the Resist T-shirt and his wife in the Dem shirt. I'd bet it was from 10+ years ago. It seems possible, if not very likely, he has been radicalized by the far-right since then.
 
I saw the pic of him with the Resist T-shirt and his wife in the Dem shirt. I'd bet it was from 10+ years ago. It seems possible, if not very likely, he has been radicalized by the far-right since then.
Dude, seriously? You need to get off the internet permanently. This is not for you.

You are going to end up giving your life savings to a Nigerian prince. It is inevitable.
 
They do know? I had to think about it, and I know a lot about WWI.
And of course Princip was not trying to free Serbia from Austria-Hungary domination since Serbia was already its own country. When Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia, that was the start of world war I.
 
I get where super was going and I don’t think it’s glorifying violence. Still, super, I’d go back rephrase it.

As a thought exercise - and nothing more - a “greater good” argument could be used to validate murder/assassination. The, if you could have murdered Hitler, thing.

The obvious issue is, who decides - especially in today’s world of disinformation.
If u could kill Hitler before he took power and save 6 million Jews and many others, would you
 
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