“No Kings" Protests (Latest, 3/28/26)

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ChileG said:
He can’t admit he was ever wrong so he believes whatever the world’s most prolific liar tells him.
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You think these protests are all grass roots organized and funded? No, the 70 year old lady in charlotte holding the mass produced sign isn’t getting $15 an hour to stand there but the organization through paid organizers and funding to produce her sign used to protest isnt coming out of her pocket. Maybe it helps you sleep better playing the semantics game but the fact remains that a big part of the left’s no kings, anti ice, free Palestine, etc protests are paid for by people like Soros and singham. Are you disputing that? I call that paid protesting.

The guardian estimated 8 million world wide participated. Again, less than 3%. Pretty weak for such a hyped event or do you disagree about that too?
 
Callatoroy said:
You think these protests are all grass roots organized and funded? No, the 70 year old lady in charlotte holding the mass produced sign isn’t getting $15 an hour to stand there but the organization through paid organizers and funding to produce her sign used to protest isnt coming out of her pocket. Maybe it helps you sleep better playing the semantics game but the fact remains that a big part of the left’s no kings, anti ice, free Palestine, etc protests are paid for by people like Soros and singham. Are you disputing that? I call that paid protesting.

The guardian estimated 8 million world wide participated. Again, less than 3%. Pretty weak for such a hyped event or do you disagree about that too?
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Of course the organizers are getting paid. They work for organizations and organizing this stuff is part of their job description. Do the organizers of CPAC get paid? Of course they do. With all the billions in dark money flowing through LLC after LLC on the right to hide the donors, it is really rich that the right whines about "paid protesters" which is bullshit but the whole right wing machine is orchestrated by paid bootlickers.

You are being purposefully stupid.
 
Callatoroy said:
You think these protests are all grass roots organized and funded? No, the 70 year old lady in charlotte holding the mass produced sign isn’t getting $15 an hour to stand there but the organization through paid organizers and funding to produce her sign used to protest isnt coming out of her pocket. Maybe it helps you sleep better playing the semantics game but the fact remains that a big part of the left’s no kings, anti ice, free Palestine, etc protests are paid for by people like Soros and singham. Are you disputing that? I call that paid protesting.

The guardian estimated 8 million world wide participated. Again, less than 3%. Pretty weak for such a hyped event or do you disagree about that too?
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You are not missing something. You are missing quite literally EVERYTHING.
 
farce© said:
Of course the organizers are getting paid. They work for organizations and organizing this stuff is part of their job description. Do the organizers of CPAC get paid? Of course they do. With all the billions in dark money flowing through LLC after LLC on the right to hide the donors, it is really rich that the right whines about "paid protesters" which is bullshit but the whole right wing machine is orchestrated by paid bootlickers.

You are being purposefully stupid.
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But the bootlickers aren’t doing china’s bidding.
 
donbosco said:
People called Nixon a fascist I’ve heard.

I know that people called Reagan one because I admonished them for it. He was a lot of bad and wrong-headed things but not that.
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can you share widespread reporting on those incidents?

civilians throwing the term around is not remotely the same as experts and historians consistently sounding the alarm about this particular admin.
 
4thgenheel said:
can you share widespread reporting on those incidents?

civilians throwing the term around is not remotely the same as experts and historians consistently sounding the alarm about this particular admin.
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No...all my experiences are anecdotal. Like I said, often thoughtless activists tossed out that word without having studied Mussolini or Hitler. It was a constant struggle to get people to do their homework...as it remains.

In a sidebar, a friend and fairly recently retired history professor at A&T published this book in 2018 -- it is a provocative delve into homegrown American Fascism:

nyupress.org

The Coming of the American Behemoth

A primer on the history of American fascismMost people in the United States have been trained to recognize fascism in movements such as Germany’s Third Rei...
nyupress.org nyupress.org


"A primer on the history of American fascism

Most people in the United States have been trained to recognize fascism in movements such as Germany’s Third Reich or Italy’s National Fascist Party, where charismatic demagogues manipulate incensed, vengeful masses. We rarely think of fascism as linked to the essence of monopoly-finance capitalism, operating under the guise of American free-enterprise. But, as Michael Joseph Roberto argues, this is exactly where fascism’s embryonic forms began gestating in the United States, during the so-called prosperous 1920s and the Great Depression of the following decade. Drawing from a range of authors who wrote during the 1930s and early 1940s, Roberto examines how the driving force of American fascism comes, not from reactionary movements below, but from the top, namely, Big Business and the power of finance capital. More subtle than its earlier European counterparts, writes Roberto, fascist America’s racist, top-down quashing of individual liberties masqueraded as “real democracy,” “upholding the Constitution,” and the pressure to be “100 Percent American.”

The Coming of the American Behemoth is intended as a primer, to forge much-needed discourse on the nature of fascism, and its particular forms within the United States. The book focuses on the role of the capital-labor relationship during the period between the two World Wars, when the United States became the epicenter of the world-capitalist system. Concentrating on specific processes, which he characterizes as terrorist and non-terrorist alike, Roberto argues that the interwar period was a fertile time for the incubation of a protean, more salable form of tyranny – a fascist behemoth in the making, whose emergence has been ignored or dismissed by mainstream historians. This book is a necessity for anyone who fears America tipping ever closer, in this era of Trump, to full-blown fascism."
 
farce© said:
Of course the organizers are getting paid. They work for organizations and organizing this stuff is part of their job description. Do the organizers of CPAC get paid? Of course they do. With all the billions in dark money flowing through LLC after LLC on the right to hide the donors, it is really rich that the right whines about "paid protesters" which is bullshit but the whole right wing machine is orchestrated by paid bootlickers.

You are being purposefully stupid.
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Get back to me when cpac is organizing and funding national or regional protests and is acting on behalf of china.
 
8992Tiger said:
30%. That is a sizeable chunk of the population. Now granted, all of those 5k may not technically live within the 16k city limits, but it is still pretty darn big.
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lol at you picking one location for a national protest. Again, 8 million world wide is the estimated total. Even if you say the 8 million is the total US participation that comes out to about 2.2% participation. Has to be very disappointing for the no kings clan.
 
Callatoroy said:
You think these protests are all grass roots organized and funded? No, the 70 year old lady in charlotte holding the mass produced sign isn’t getting $15 an hour to stand there but the organization through paid organizers and funding to produce her sign used to protest isnt coming out of her pocket. Maybe it helps you sleep better playing the semantics game but the fact remains that a big part of the left’s no kings, anti ice, free Palestine, etc protests are paid for by people like Soros and singham. Are you disputing that? I call that paid protesting.

The guardian estimated 8 million world wide participated. Again, less than 3%. Pretty weak for such a hyped event or do you disagree about that too?
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Jan 6 protests were funded by someone. The Tea Party protests were funded by someone back in the day. The Unite the Right was funded by someone. Trump rallies are funded by someone. You can get Google info on some, if not most, of the money trails.

I honestly don't get your point. Are you saying that funding protests is wrong? Well, pot meet kettle. Are you saying the funders themselves are the problem, that the people you think are funding No Kings are somehow objectively worse than people who fund right wing protests? That just boils down to a school yard arguement over who has to coolest sneakers, a pretty dumb waste of time. Maybe you are saying everyone there was paid? I have some refuting evidence: my wallet. Maybe most were paid? No evidence for >51%. Many were paid? No evidence, depending on how you define "most". Some / a few / one was paid? Sure, maybe a few people handing out signs were paid, or maybe someone was taken out to lunch. You could probably find evidence of that. But guess what, you could find the same at right wing protests.

BTW, 8 million protesters is a hell of a lot of people. While those numbers have a ton of uncertainty, ChatGPT tells me that the Iraq war protests were the only larger single day global protests.
 
Callatoroy said:
lol at you picking one location for a national protest. Again, 8 million world wide is the estimated total. Even if you say the 8 million is the total US participation that comes out to about 2.2% participation. Has to be very disappointing for the no kings clan.
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Wow. Talk about moving the goalposts. I am simply responding to your comment about that location. I didn't "pick" it. You did.

Maybe you should have led with "Hendersonville is only one community, and it had a disproportionately large turnout." I probably would have not responded to that because you would have been correct as far as I can tell.
 
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