Racism

Healing said:
Nah, nah, nah, you gotta suffer it if you start a thread that offers an opening.

Per zen, no racism bc Shaboozey has a really popular country song.
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That’s the nice thing about ignore and “super ignore”.
Of course zen could always ignore the thread altogether (another fine feature of this board) but no, he saw “an opening” as you say.

I knew there would be some racists on this board who would rear their ugly heads. But that’s not why I started the thread. Besides, zen was probably still shittin’ yellow 40 years ago, if he was even in diapers at all back then.
 
ZenMode said:
Because this story, like other events over the last few decades, are indicators of the state of racism in the US.

The historical stereotype of "US country music fan" isn't of someone who would push a black rapper to record-setting levels in country music.
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Indicator or outlier?

If you think this is an indicator, we should probably expect it to happen more often going forward. Do you expect it to happen more often?
 
BillOfRights said:
Indicator or outlier?

If you think this is an indicator, we should probably expect it to happen more often going forward. Do you expect it to happen more often?
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How often it happens will depend on how many black, cross-over artists there are.

Beyonce also recently became the first black female to have the top song on Billboard's Hot Country chart. Eight songs from that same album made the Hot Country top 10.
 
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There's been OC Smith, Charlie Pride and Ray Charles in the country charts. The War and Treaty was nominated for CMA's Best Vocal Duo of the Year and have recorded with Emmy Lou Harris and also Zach Bryan. It's not like there hasn't been black artists in country on and off. I just don't see that it says anything much about society.
 
finesse said:
There's been OC Smith, Charlie Pride and Ray Charles in the country charts. The War and Treaty was nominated for CMA's Best Vocal Duo of the Year and have recorded with Emmy Lou Harris and also Zach Bryan. It's not like there hasn't been black artists in country on and off. I just don't see that it says anything much about society.
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Darius Rucker and Wagon Wheel say hello too…
 
Centerpiece said:
Darius Rucker and Wagon Wheel say hello too…
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Oh. Yeah, it's kinda country and kinda music.

Apropos of nothing,

I set aside my Faron Young and bought myself a Hootie
I rolled down the window of my pickup truck and sailed it like a Frisbee
 
finesse said:
Oh. Yeah, it's kinda country and kinda music.

Apropos of nothing,

I set aside my Faron Young and bought myself a Hootie
I rolled down the window of my pickup truck and sailed it like a Frisbee
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Excuse me. I’m at a loss as I’ve not followed the thread along very well, even though I started it. There’s some big gaps in the discussion.
I can only assume the thread was derailed and conversation started about black people making country music.
Has there been any discussion yet about white people making rap music? Or is this a one way street?
 
Past black rock artists occasionally being on country charts isn't entirely surprising.... assuming it's true. A black rapper setting the record for weeks at #1 isn't just "being on the charts". A year earlier Beyonce, also a rapper, became the first ever black female to make #1 on country charts.

I realize there's an inclination to "not give an inch" as it relates to racism (a topic that could be added to the "Dems being out of touch with Americans" thread, IMO), but this seems like something that is relevant and positive, particularly given the assumptions about MAGA, which has a lot of overlap with the country music contingency, which has some overlap with high racism.
 
Does this qualify as being on the charts?


1950s, he later pursued a career in country music, becoming the genre's first major black superstar.<a href="Charley Pride - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> The period of his greatest musical success was from around 1969 to 1975, when he was the top-selling artist for RCA Records, outselling even Elvis Presley and John Denver. During the peak years of his recording career (1966–1987), he had 52 top-10 hits on the Billboard Hot Country Songs chart, 30 of which made it to number one. Songs such as "All I Have to Offer You (Is Me)", "Is Anybody Goin' to San Antone", and "Kiss an Angel Good Mornin'", among others, typified the "countrypolitan" style that made him famous and became crossover-pop hits. He won the Entertainer of the Year award at the Country Music Association Awards in 1971 and was awarded a Grammy for "Best Country Vocal Performance, Male" in 1972.
 
ZenMode said:
Past black rock artists occasionally being on country charts isn't entirely surprising.... assuming it's true. A black rapper setting the record for weeks at #1 isn't just "being on the charts". A year earlier Beyonce, also a rapper, became the first ever black female to make #1 on country charts.

I realize there's an inclination to "not give an inch" as it relates to racism (a topic that could be added to the "Dems being out of touch with Americans" thread, IMO), but this seems like something that is relevant and positive, particularly given the assumptions about MAGA, which has a lot of overlap with the country music contingency, which has some overlap with high racism.
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Hey folks, racism isn't a big thing anymore because a black guy has the number 1 song on the country chart. And because MAGA folks like country, that means MAGA folks can't be racist. They probably even have a black friend.
 
Genuine question because I don't know the answer. Is this Shaboozy song more popular or less popular than the song about lynching people from a year or two back?
 
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