Reminder: Clock Springs Forward this weekend

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aGDevil2k said:
I get that - but we tried the permanent DST in the 70s. It didn't work.
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Why didn't it work?

It seemed to work for millennia prior to the early 1900s. :D

Look up how much DST cost us, 8n both health, production, and money.

Everything is 24/7, so every computer algorithm has to waste programming resources and operational resources supporting it for no ROI. I've read studies that indicate heart attacks and other health risk increase in the day we lose an hour.

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7 Things to Know About Daylight Saving Time | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

The daylight saving time transition causes more than grogginess and foul moods. Researchers say that the change has long-term negative consequences for our bodies and minds.
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I've not read any compelling argument for keeping it.
 
finesse said:
Is that cross cultural? Is there data that show it's consistent between agrarian and industrial communities. Just wondering if it's essentially genetic or environmental.
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I will have to go back and look, I didn't pay much attention to that variable.

Though I did read that less than 40% of countries in the world use DST.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
Americans just love to complain and worry about the stupidest shit....... its one measly hour.
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I always find it funny that inevitably people bitch about the time changes and inevitably people bitch about the people bitching about the time changes. :unsure:
 
aGDevil2k said:
People who advocate for permanent DST don't have kids. No way you wanna get up and send kids to school when it's dark until almost 9 am.

Keeping standard is better. But even then, sunlight at 4am in June is not cool
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I prefer the time switch. But I do have kids, and if I had to choose one over the other, I would go with DST. Having at least a couple hours of daylight left when I get off work for most of the year is huge. And having more daylight later is great for my kids. It gives them more time to play outdoors after school, and gives me time to do things outdoors with them when I get off work.
 
UNCatTech said:
Why didn't it work?

It seemed to work for millennia prior to the early 1900s. :D

Look up how much DST cost us, 8n both health, production, and money.

Everything is 24/7, so every computer algorithm has to waste programming resources and operational resources supporting it for no ROI. I've read studies that indicate heart attacks and other health risk increase in the day we lose an hour.

publichealth.jhu.edu

7 Things to Know About Daylight Saving Time | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

The daylight saving time transition causes more than grogginess and foul moods. Researchers say that the change has long-term negative consequences for our bodies and minds.
publichealth.jhu.edu publichealth.jhu.edu

I've not read any compelling argument for keeping it.
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I’m fine with staying with the same time all year as long as it’s standard time and not DST.

But I’ve come around to thinking changing time is the best option. It creates more daylight hours in the evening when the weather is warm and people want to be out while still allowing for sunrise at a reasonable hour in the winter. I will credit @Icky Mettle for presenting this argument in a way that is hard to disagree with. Yes, the twice yearly transitions are a pain in the ass for a few days, but it offers what most people are looking for.

Year round DST is the worst of the three available options from my point of view. I hate the late sunrise in the winter far more than I appreciate the extra hour of daylight in the summer, so why not have both and just leave it like it is?
 
farce© said:
I’m fine with staying with the same time all year as long as it’s standard time and not DST.

But I’ve come around to thinking changing time is the best option. It creates more daylight hours in the evening when the weather is warm and people want to be out while still allowing for sunrise at a reasonable hour in the winter. I will credit @Icky Mettle for presenting this argument in a way that is hard to disagree with. Yes, the twice yearly transitions are a pain in the ass for a few days, but it offers what most people are looking for.

Year round DST is the worst of the three available options from my point of view. I hate the late sunrise in the winter far more than I appreciate the extra hour of daylight in the summer, so why not have both and just leave it like it is?
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I'm sure that everyone has their reasons for supporting or not. Ultimately it's not a hill I would die on.

I don't like it being dark when I leave work. And it does cause me a little heart ache at work. We have policies in place now to handle the change, but in the past it has cost me more than a few hours correcting issues caused by PLCs or equipment that didn't account for the time changes and reported times that were evaluated as failures when they were no.

I guess also I struggle with the shorter night sleep. I really need 7 hours of sleep.
 
I don't care which is chosen, just pick one and stay with it. Stop pretending we can "move" time.
 
When I was in the Army in Germany, during the Winter, the 8 AM formation, after breakfast and 6 pm formation, before supper, were both in pitch black dark. In summer, it got full light about 4 or 5 am and it was 10 pm before it was full dark. I suppose some places, DST makes sense. But in the high latitudes and the low latitudes, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. For NC, I don't care whether it is DST or Standard Time that goes away, but I want one of them to go away. The older I get, the more I hate the time change.
 
ZenMode said:
I don't care which is chosen, just pick one and stay with it. Stop pretending we can "move" time.
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We don't do anything with "time" but name it. It's an artificial construct to measure things for our convenience. There are certain things that happen at certain intervals but how those intervals are divided into units is almost totally artificial. What is the basis for an hour or a minute?
 
finesse said:
We don't do anything with "time" but name it. It's an artificial construct to measure things for our convenience. There are certain things that happen at certain intervals but how those intervals are divided into units is almost totally artificial. What is the basis for an hour or a minute?
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Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?
 
finesse said:
We don't do anything with "time" but name it. It's an artificial construct to measure things for our convenience. There are certain things that happen at certain intervals but how those intervals are divided into units is almost totally artificial. What is the basis for an hour or a minute?
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The Bible?
 
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