RFK Jr, HHs & Public Health News | Measles outbreak, etc.

[nycfan]

 

[UNCatTech]

Why wouldn't we want to monitor and assess the efficacy and potential long-term side effects of drugs and food additives?

Do you really believe that all they will be doing is normal testing and routine efficacy testing? If that's what they were proposing, then why the EO?

 

[4thgenheel]

What is this about trying to revoke her marriage license? What are you talking about?

republicans want to overturn the obergefell ruling which requires states to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples and recognize their marriages.

 

[UNCatTech]

Folks can get the vaccine but the state just won’t promote it, which I think is not a big deal. I get the flu shot every year as does my wife and kids. I’m not sure Iver ever looked at an ad for it with anything other than a “that’s kind of dumb” stance.

By not promote it, they mean not require it to attend public schools.

The ad is the only reason I remember to get the flu shot. The Publix puts up the sign telling me it's time. Otherwise, I would probably forget.

 

[wmheel1287]

Its not 100% false. There appear to be differences in immune response between blacks and whites based on several peer reviewed studies that were referenced in the article I linked.

And yet again, that's not what he said. What Kennedy said is plainly wrong.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

Do you really believe that all they will be doing is normal testing and routine efficacy testing? If that's what they were proposing, then why the EO?

I am skeptical of all the gloom and doom I've been hearing. Trump is going to start a nuclear war... Trump is going to end interracial marriage...etc. At some point, folks stop believing that boy when he cries wolf.

And Trump does plenty of crazy things. Let's focus on them instead of predicting that Trump is planning to end vaccines or ADHD meds.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

And yet again, that's not what he said. What Kennedy said is plainly wrong.

That is what he said. Here is the relevant part of the quote.

"...because their immune system is better than ours.” —RFK Jr

 

[nrsair]

Folks can get the vaccine but the state just won’t promote it, which I think is not a big deal. I get the flu shot every year as does my wife and kids. I’m not sure Iver ever looked at an ad for it with anything other than a “that’s kind of dumb” stance.

State health departments are some of, if not the biggest providers of vaccinations. That doesn’t happen without promotion of those resources (ie providing information and telling people where to go). All of us on the zzl have the literacy to understand the need for vaccines and probably have easy access to insurance, physicians, pharmacies, even basic things like transportation to appointments. Many, many people lack those resources and that’s precisely the population that health departments serve. That population is, on average, less healthy than the general public, so they’re going to get hit even harder by influenza, RSV, pneumococcal pneumonia, etc. So this decision is just going to increase the strain on Louisiana’s already overstretched health care system.

 

[Healing]

Who was the guy that “accidentally” posted a link from stormfront on the old zzl?

Don’t know, but calla recently posted a video from a YouTube account with Pepe the Frog as the avatar.

 

[nycfan]

 

[Kraftyheel89]

Is Aaron Rodgers going to join the crackpot RFK Jr's staff? He holds the same views and is just as educated and experienced on important health matters.

He also just got canned by the Jets so has the time.

 

[nrsair]

I’m not sure how many places require still require COVID vaccines at this point… it’s not even a requirement to work at most hospitals now. This is probably a soft launch on the beginning to end all vaccine mandates.

 

[Healing]

I’m not sure how many places require still require COVID vaccines at this point… it’s not even a requirement to work at most hospitals now. This is probably a soft launch on the beginning to end all vaccine mandates.

It’s not required in the healthcare systems I’m associated with.

 

[CFordUNC]

Man, I simply cannot advocate enough for the seasonal flu vaccine. Both my wife and our 2-year-old have had influenza A this week (both are vaxxed), and I've definitely been exposed to it, and haven't had a single symptom after 9 days of it being in our household.

 

[superrific]

Unconstitutional again.

 

[UNCatTech]

I am skeptical of all the gloom and doom I've been hearing. Trump is going to start a nuclear war... Trump is going to end interracial marriage...etc. At some point, folks stop believing that boy when he cries wolf.

And Trump does plenty of crazy things. Let's focus on them instead of predicting that Trump is planning to end vaccines or ADHD meds.

But most of this response is a reaction to his EOs. We're not making things up.

I mean, maybe the nuclear agencies didn't need those 300 people that this administration let go, maybe we do...

 

[superrific]

Folks can get the vaccine but the state just won’t promote it, which I think is not a big deal.

It is a big deal. Not as big a deal as outlawing the vaccine, but it is only reinforcing the impression among certain segments of the public that vaccines are dangerous. Also, if a patient asks about a vaccine, apparently the doctor can't even say, "oh yeah, it's good and you should get it and there's a lot of misinformation." That's really bad.

And for what? What good comes from this policy? What can you possibly say in favor of it?

 

[UNCatTech]

Is Aaron Rodgers going to join the crackpot RFK Jr's staff? He holds the same views and is just as educated and experienced on important health matters.

He also just got canned by the Jets so has the time.

Yea, always the smartest man in the room, according to him.

 

[superrific]

I am skeptical of all the gloom and doom I've been hearing. Trump is going to start a nuclear war... Trump is going to end interracial marriage...etc. At some point, folks stop believing that boy when he cries wolf.

And Trump does plenty of crazy things. Let's focus on them instead of predicting that Trump is planning to end vaccines or ADHD meds.

I think you don't understand probability, among many other things.

I don't recall anyone saying, "Trump is definitely going to start a nuclear war." But any reasonable person should understand that the odds of a nuclear war have increased massively over the last month. Maybe that's an increase from 0.1% to 1% (a tenfold increase is massive, though not in absolute terms). Maybe it's 0.1% to 10%. Obviously these numbers are made up. Probably the odds of nuclear war are still very low.

But any increase in the probability of nuclear war is really bad. Whatever the likelihood, if it's non-zero it's too high. And Trump has done that.

Nobody has said anything about interracial marriage, which is why you used this example. We are concerned that they are probably going to overturn Obergefell. I mean, multiple Justices have already said they want to do that. But I'm sure you know more than anyone about this situation.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

But most of this response is a reaction to his EOs. We're not making things up.

I mean, maybe the nuclear agencies didn't need those 300 people that this administration let go, maybe we do...

What I see is a lot of "we are going to look at how we prescribe ADHD meds or how we administer vaccines" and it becomes "my kid won't be able to get vaccines or ADHD meds."