Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations” | Trump demands Ukraine capitulate by Thanksgiving

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The arrangement is designed to avoid a Ukrainian referendum—which would block outright territorial cession—and to lock in a ceasefire.
 
So we spend 4/5ths of a trillion dollars a year on Defense
Russia invades Ukraine for the second time in a few years
We kind of fart around with some second level arms help-no "Offense" weapons
So what does our great defense budget do? I am of course assumming invasions by Russia into NATO neighboring land is a threat. Now if it is not -well what do we spend 4/5ths of a trillion dollars a year on defense for?
 
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"indicates a slight lull on the Frontline."

Yea, Russia keeps running out of men and resources to sacrifice so that can cause a lull too.

Urals oil prices have shrunk to the $36 to $45 range. This drop in pricing is mostly due to Ukraine taking out Oil terminals and such. If Russia is an unreliable oil supplier then that drives down the price.

Now some of the drop in oil prices is due to recent Trump sanctions which are temporary and only designed to encourage Putin to maintain the appearance of negotiating so they can cast Ukraine as the bad guy. Or to maintain Trump's delusional Nobel Peace Prize dream.
 
As to Trump's disingenuous Russian sanctions, it was hard not to notice the Saudi Royal White House visit. Its in the Crown Prince's interest to stick it to Russia's oil industry so he can take their market share. I wouldn't be surprised if the Crown Prince has cut a deal with Trump to maintain sanctions on Russia thru the winter so their system's will freeze and be ruined. Would explain a lot.
 
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Here is the current deal. Ukraine is trying to negotiate a little bit but this might be where it ends up. This is about what I expected on Ukraine giving up territory, no Western troops in Ukraine and not joining NATO but the concessions around Western jets being based in Poland and a limitation of troops are surprising. I'm not sure what US security guarantees are worth in Ukraine these days but woe to the vanquished.

"It envisages Kyiv giving up Crimea and the Donbas region, while the frontlines of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia would be frozen along the current line of contact. Ukraine would agree to limit its army to 600,000 personnel, a reductions of hundreds of thousands.

European fighter jets would be based in Poland to protect Ukraine, but no Nato troops would be stationed in Ukraine and Kyiv would agree never to join the military alliance, according to the plan seen by Axios and AFP.

No foreign troops would be allowed on Ukrainian soil, a condition that rules out a post-deal peacekeeping force led by the UK and France. But the US would provide unspecified security guarantees, according to Axios. In addition, $100bn in frozen Russian assets would be dedicated to rebuilding Ukraine. There would also be a path to reintegrating Russia in the global economy, including the future lifting of sanctions, according to the Associate Press."

www.theguardian.com

Zelenskyy to negotiate with Trump over US-Russia peace deal requiring painful concessions

Ukrainian president’s office issues statement after other officials condemn ‘absurd’ plan to end conflict
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