HandsonFire
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This really makes me sick. America assisting a bully/dictator in strong arming a country we called an ally. Fuck Donald Trump that fat worthless piece of dog shit.
Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations” | Witkoff advising Russians how to play Trump
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Batt Boy
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Wow, you just don't know what you are talking about, but you have shifted to comparisons to Western standards noteless. BTW, Germany's armies in 1918 and 1945 were in very different conditions.
p5mmr9
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What are you basing this comment on?
p5mmr9
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Unless either of you work in military intelligence - I'm not sure either of you know enough to make these broad stroke judgements. I certainly have no idea what Russia's military capabilities are compared with 2022. It's kind of irrelevant, regardless.The only thing I'm certain is that Trump's appeasement is going to cost far more lives in the long term than confronting Putin and insuring Ukraine's victory.
Do you think Trump cares about that kind of stuff? He considers “peace” a win no matter what.
Batt Boy
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US Air Force general: Russia military larger, better than before Ukraine invasion
On Monday, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered that the Russian army grow by 180,000 active-duty troops for a total of 1.5 million soldiers
www.voanews.com
Three Years Into the Ukraine War, Russia’s Army Is Stronger Than Ever
Last year, the Russian forces lost over 400,000 men in the fighting. But they managed to replace losses on an almost one-to-one ratio.
nationalinterest.org
Russia's Armed Forces Emerging Stronger from Ukraine War
Despite the disasters of the early phase of the Ukraine war, a reoriented wartime economy and massive spending increases have left Russia’s armed forces in a better position than when the conflict started.
www.geopoliticalmonitor.com
Understanding the Russian Military Today | Russia and Eurasia | CSIS
Publications addressing all facets of Russian military power
The Russian Military: Forecasting The Threat
This report examines Russia’s post-2022 military transformation, adapting its forces and strategy to fight a positional war.
understandingwar.org
Michale Kofman, Sam Bendett, Rob Lee, Aleks Golts - hell just about every Russian Military experts concludes they are stronger and much better tactically. Not to mention their incredible leaps in drone warfare. Their Center for Advanced Unmanned Tech (Рубикон) is cutting edge.
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U.S. Senators Say They Spoke With Rubio About Trump’s Ukraine Peace Plan Who Denied It Is A U.S. Plan
Senators said Rubio told them the peace plan Trump is pushing Kyiv to accept is a “wish list” of the Russians and not the actual U.S. plan.
whatntarnation
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Yep. shameful American cowardice.
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Sen. Mike Rounds (R-ND), according to PBS NewsHour reporter Nick Schifrin, said Rubio called him and other lawmakers to make it “very clear to us that we are the recipients of a proposal that was delivered to one of our representatives. It is not our recommendation, it is not our peace plan.”
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I wonder how “manly and macho and fit” Trump would look with these European leaders?
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“… Trump previously gave Ukraine until Thursday to approve the proposal, though said that deadline could be extended if talks progress.
Both Rubio and Witkoff will attend the Geneva meeting on Sunday alongside security officials from the UK, France and Germany, as well as Ukraine….”
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“The U.S. peace plan presented to Ukraine appears to have been translated from Russian.
The syntax of certain phrases are more common in the Russian language, such as the third point of the 28-point plan: “It is expected that Russia will not invade neighbouring countries and Nato will not expand further.”
“It is expected” is not commonly used in English, but it is common in Russian and appears to come from the phrase ожидается or ozhidayetsya, according to The Guardian’s Luke Harding. Other words that appear to be translated from Russian include “ambiguities” (неоднозначности) and “to enshrine” (закрепить)….”
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The syntax of certain phrases are more common in the Russian language, such as the third point of the 28-point plan: “It is expected that Russia will not invade neighbouring countries and Nato will not expand further.”
“It is expected” is not commonly used in English, but it is common in Russian and appears to come from the phrase ожидается or ozhidayetsya, according to The Guardian’s Luke Harding. Other words that appear to be translated from Russian include “ambiguities” (неоднозначности) and “to enshrine” (закрепить)….”
Trump’s Ukraine Peace Deal Appears to Be Translated From Russian
Certain phrases in Trump’s proposed deal seem to be using Russian language.
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It’s weird. Russia leaked this plan (or Witkoff thinks so based on his accidental tweet meant to be a DM when the plan leaked). But they also seem to be setting the stage to reject it.
It is playing out like a Kremlin op aimed at expanding disruptions in the NATO alliance more than a genuine overture for ceasefire or peace. But who knows? All we can see fore sure is how inept the Trump officials involved are.
It is playing out like a Kremlin op aimed at expanding disruptions in the NATO alliance more than a genuine overture for ceasefire or peace. But who knows? All we can see fore sure is how inept the Trump officials involved are.