Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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Wasn’t sure where to put this, but this seemed like the best option.

Ummm, WTF?

Trump Put Musk on Phone With Zelensky During Call​

Elon Musk was with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago when the president-elect spoke with Ukraine’s leader. It is not clear if they discussed any change in U.S. policy toward Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

Trump Put Musk on Phone With Zelensky During Call

Elon Musk was with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago when the president-elect spoke with Ukraine’s leader. It is not clear if they discussed any change in U.S. policy toward Ukraine.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Wasn’t sure where to put this, but this seemed like the best option.

Ummm, WTF?

Trump Put Musk on Phone With Zelensky During Call​

Elon Musk was with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago when the president-elect spoke with Ukraine’s leader. It is not clear if they discussed any change in U.S. policy toward Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

Trump Put Musk on Phone With Zelensky During Call

Elon Musk was with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago when the president-elect spoke with Ukraine’s leader. It is not clear if they discussed any change in U.S. policy toward Ukraine.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Starlink is used by Ukranian troops. Russia uses a similar system. Musk has some vested interest, but probably not a huge amount. Trump will want to pacify Putin by giving concessions to Russia. It will be interesting to see what comes out of this group hug.
 
mynameisbond said:
Starlink is used by Ukranian troops. Russia uses a similar system. Musk has some vested interest, but probably not a huge amount. Trump will want to pacify Putin by giving concessions to Russia. It will be interesting to see what comes out of this group hug.
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I think they were letting Zelensky know he might want to move his family to Boca before February.
 
I heard Trump considering deal: if Putin will pull out of Ukraine and promise to honor their sovereignty, US will pull out of NATO
 
Do Russians still use the same system that the USSR used where they really don't have a cadre of career noncoms?
 
finesse said:
Do Russians still use the same system that the USSR used where they really don't have a cadre of career noncoms?
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I read a couple of years ago that is STILL the case and considered a huge flaw in their military readiness and training.
 
finesse said:
Do Russians still use the same system that the USSR used where they really don't have a cadre of career noncoms?
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Yes, their military is a disorganized shit show. Almost all enlisted are conscripts and officers are Putin loyalists who couldn’t get work elsewhere. With their manpower and resource advantages they should have made quick work of Ukraine (which is why many assumed that they would). That they didn’t should be a major embarrassment to them.
 
HeelingAg said:
"And yet we don’t let Ukraine strike back properly."

I mean, this isn't exactly a mystery, yeah? Sociopath with the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet, and all.
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Yeah. It's almost as if nuclear weapons are so good that many countries have been enduring sanctions in order to develop them. It's almost as if the world's poorest country -- or one of them for sure -- put itself on the map because of its nukes. Hmm.
 
HeelingAg said:
"And yet we don’t let Ukraine strike back properly."

I mean, this isn't exactly a mystery, yeah? Sociopath with the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet, and all.
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The saddest irony here lies in the details of the Budapest Memorandum.
 
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