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Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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nycfan said:


This is an unsurprising report.
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“… Mr. Trump did not say in the statement if he sought to discourage Mr. Putin from attacking Ukraine. He rather expressed optimism over the prospect of working with Mr. Putin on another foreign policy priority: deterring Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

The White House did not immediately respond to questions inquiring if Mr. Trump had pushed back against Mr. Putin in the phone call or why his Truth Social post had been temporarily deleted.

… Yuri Ushakov, a Kremlin foreign policy aide who briefed reporters on the call, did not say whether Mr. Putin had discussed retaliation. But he described Ukraine’s government and its actions, including apparent attacks on railroads on Sunday, as “terrorist,” disregarding that Russia initiated the war with its 2022 invasion and that in recent weeks it had stepped up its regular bombardment of Ukrainian cities and civilians.

… Mr. Trump has told aides repeatedly that Mr. Zelensky is a “bad guy” who is edging the world to the precipice of nuclear war. But he has at other times told advisers that it is understandable that Mr. Zelensky is fighting back, given that he is in a war against an enemy who seems determined to keep bombing Ukrainian cities.

He tends to be more deferential to Mr. Putin, although he has at times expressed disappointment.

He previously seemed to think that what he described as his “very, very good relationship” with the Russian leader would bring a quick end to the war. Mr. Trump has learned the hard way what the limits of American leverage are when he is unwilling to send Ukraine more weapons and money. …”
 
lawtig02 said:
That's fantastic. I don't think I have seen those before, but that's great.
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I agree. A note at the bottom of the first page suggests this letter was declassified on August 29, 1974. While I have no exact recollection of what I was doing on that day, I think it is safe to say that revisiting the Cuban Missile Crisis would have been low on my list of priorities. Today however, it looms increasing large.
 
nycfan said:
“. . .. Mr. Trump has learned the hard way what the limits of American leverage are when he is unwilling to send Ukraine more weapons and money. . . ..”
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So, St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago, the master negotiator, is just now learning that it is a bad idea to make unilateral concessions to a homicidal maniac like Vlad "the Ras" Putin?
 
Well that's something Trump and I can agree on. It was a strong move. I wish Zelenskyy would have come out and publicly stated that there was plenty more where that came from unless Russia left Ukraine territory immediately.
 
You know how sometimes you're watching a game, and it's obvious that one of the commentators is rooting hard for one of the teams, but they don't want to admit it, so they say everything should be a double foul or double tech?
 
superrific said:
You know how sometimes you're watching a game, and it's obvious that one of the commentators is rooting hard for one of the teams, but they don't want to admit it, so they say everything should be a double foul or double tech?
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