Russia - US “Ukraine peace negotiations”

Centerpiece said:
Russia is on the back foot trying to bluff with a dud hand. Time for Europe to draw a line in the sand.
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Agree, but have no faith they will. I've served with many of them and their default remains that the US will pay for and provide their security. Granted, I never served with any Poles and my understanding is they are solid.
 
Batt Boy said:
Agree, but have no faith they will. I've served with many of them and their default remains that the US will pay for and provide their security. Granted, I never served with any Poles and my understanding is they are solid.
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I would imagine the Poles have a little more shit in their neck than say, the French.
One of the problems I see is that Europe is trending right, almost trumpian. Italy, for example. Germany now has Musk backing their hard-right candidate(s) in the upcoming elections... Certainly Hungary (duh)... The Netherlands narrowly escaped electing a hard line righty in their last election... France... England with the Brexit vote, leaving the EU... etc. etc.

Euro dudes better watch out because they're about to FAFO.

Also what's interesting is now the Axis of Evil that Bush talked about is made up of Russia, U.S. and China. The trifecta of world domination by oligarchs and authoritarians. With Elon the self-declared King of the Planet.
 
Batt Boy said:
Agree, but have no faith they will. I've served with many of them and their default remains that the US will pay for and provide their security. Granted, I never served with any Poles and my understanding is they are solid.
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Thank you for your service. My next door neighbor is a bird Colonel in the army and he said the european troops are pretty much as you described but his exception was the turks. He said they are full on nuts and he would never want to have to fight against them.
 
Batt Boy said:
Agree, but have no faith they will. I've served with many of them and their default remains that the US will pay for and provide their security. Granted, I never served with any Poles and my understanding is they are solid.
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When I was in the Army in Germany, I noticed German Army trucks were much higher off the ground than were American Army trucks. Once while on joint maneuvers, I asked German NCO why their trucks were so far off the ground. He said, "The next time we go to Russia, we aren't getting stuck in the mud."
 
05C40 said:
When I was in the Army in Germany, I noticed German Army trucks were much higher off the ground than were American Army trucks. Once while on joint maneuvers, I asked German NCO why their trucks were so far off the ground. He said, "The next time we go to Russia, we aren't getting stuck in the mud."
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I think we may have noted this before, but perhaps we crossed paths. I was in Fulda for Reforger '86 and again in Wurzburg for Reforger '88.
 
Batt Boy said:
I think we may have noted this before, but perhaps we crossed paths. I was in Fulda for Reforger '86 and again in Wurzburg for Reforger '88.
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I was a little over a decade before you. But I did participate in Reforger exercises in the mid-1970's. Local soldiers were recruited to drive the "umpires" around because, (a) we had military licenses, (b) we were familiar with German roads, (c) we knew the area, and (d) we weren't participating in Reforger. And in the case of the Fulda Gap, that was an area I was very familiar with. The Fulda Gap was where my unit would have deployed to, in case the "ballon had gone up." It was the area where we did 100% of our field training.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulda_Gap
 
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