Russia - US | Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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A term sheet? THAT'S THE MINERALS AGREEMENT? A TERM SHEET? Lololololololololol. Trump's track record of getting utterly bamboozled in negotiations continues intact.

Prediction: Even if Zelenskyy signs this thing, the U.S. will never see a cent from it. Here's how it will happen:

1. Zelenskyy signs.
2. Trump says, "let's negotiate the terms of the fund now!!"
3. Zelenskyy says, "Treaty isn't valid until I get it through my parliament. It will take some time. Can't proceed until then."
4. After parliament does something, Zelenskyy says, "oh by the way, treaty isn't valid until your Senate approves it. Can't proceed until then."
5. Trump goes to the Senate.
6. If Senate approves, Trump goes back to Ukraine. Ukraine says, "well, there are a lot of details to work out." Negotiations drag on forever. Meanwhile, Ukraine starts looking for help elsewhere. Europe understands what's going on and steps up with actual security guarantees.
7. Maybe eventually Zelenskyy signs it. Now it goes to the Senate. How will the actual agreement fare there? One wonders if the Senate is really interested in holding a vote in an election year. But let's say that the Senate eventually confirms it.
8. Americans show up with digging equipment. Ukrainians say, "oh, I'm sorry, but while we were haggling over all this, we gave the leases to French and German companies. Sorry about that. Anyway, we can't break the leases according to our law."
9. Trump gets big mad. He sues Ukraine in federal court to enforce the deal (because he is stupid). Ukraine says, "Foreign Sovereign Immunity, lolololol"
10. Trump gets big mad again. All leverage gone. Deal is dead. Subsequent American president will abandon it.

Of course, getting all the way to 10 is not necessarily going to happen. It could get derailed along the way. But I'm pretty confident that the protection racket here will not work.

Because you can't run a protection racket with MOUs. LOLOLOLOL. An MOU is moderately helpful sometimes when both parties are interested in doing a deal. If one of the parties is being coerced the MOU does nothing.
 
The whole rare earth shit is so gross.

It's like coming across a wife who is being abused by her husband and saying "well I will go to the police for you but only if you pay me big time"

WTF. The USA really is not a good country anymore. Maybe we never were.
 
Trump is so funny the way he approaches everything. Maybe he knows this deal means nothing to him, but he loves propaganda. He will go out and crow endlessly about how he made Ukraine pay and it wouldn't have happened if he wasn't so tough.
 
Its always been a mystery to me, why Trump is so interested in stopping the war. Especially coming right out of the gate in the first 30 days of his Presidency. But listening to him a minute ago, its pretty obvious why he's in a hurry.

He knows Putin is in some serious trouble. So he's throwing him a lifeline. Plus, he's going to brag about stopping the war nonstop.
 


Apparently the United States abstained from the vote on its own proposed resolution and voted with Russia AGAINST Ukraine’s version.

We are one of the bad guys under Trump. Full stop.

 


Trump rambled his way around answering that straight-forward question.
 
1. I'm surprised Macron's English isn't better. Just an observation.
2. It's got to be fucking frustrating sitting there next to the orange POS who is babbling incoherently. I would have to restrain myself from going Homer-on-Bart to Trump.
3. You could see Macron's satisfied look when the person asked the simple question about Putin, and Trump babbled his way through. It's like he's thinking, "yes, everyone can see what a buffoon this man is."
 
nycfan said:
Macron fact-checks Trump in person

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Trump is such a fucking child. Look at the smug expression on his face when Macron corrects his disinformation, and then he essentially claims Macron is lying. Has to be infuriating for most world leaders to interact with such an incompetent, mendacious bad actor.
 
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