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Listening to Trump's prayer breakfast speech has mutilized me...
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Listening to Trump's prayer breakfast speech has mutilized me...
Fuck him and all the MAGATs and Christian Nationalists who have co-opted Christianity and believe only they are "true" Christians.
NO. You would NOT have the right to.
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Have the true Christians mobilized and with one voice denounced the untrue Christian Nationalists ?
I'm asking because I haven't seen any outrage expressed by true Christian groups.
I hope they have been explicitly denouncing the untrue
Christians. I just haven't seen evidence of that.
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One of the problems with the church is that, but for a (false) spokesman like Trump with a massive platform, there's no "one voice." But many faith groups are taking this on. For example --
Statement from Christians Against Christian Nationalism — Christians Against Christian Nationalism
Join thousands Christians from across the country in standing up to Christian Nationalism.
www.christiansagainstchristiannationalism.org
As Lutheran bishops we stand for religious liberty and against Christian Nationalism • Wisconsin Examiner
We are concerned about an executive order signed by President Trump that established a new “Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias.”
wisconsinexaminer.com
Church in state: Christian nationalism and the politicization of faith - Anglican Journal
The Rev. Lucia Lloyd, then of the Episcopal Church, watched the first Trump presidency with apprehension. Her friends told her there would be limits to what damage he could do, despite his discriminatory and hostile rhetoric toward women and minorities, but she remained concerned. One thing she...
anglicanjournal.com
I applaud them, but I no longer think they have the ability to overcome the catastrophic damage Trump and conservative evangelicals are doing to the faith.
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TRUMP: We should nationalize elections
LEAVITT: calm down, he obviously meant pass the SAVE Act to normalize election ID and other requirements in all 50 states.
“… That was nonsensical, of course. The SAVE Act would add federal requirements to register to vote, sure, but Trump was talking about taking over the voting in a specific number of places (15) – not passing a law that would apply to the whole country.
And sure enough, Trump on Tuesday made clear that he meant what he said. Asked by CNN’s Kaitlan Collins what he meant by nationalize the election, he made no mention of the SAVE Act and doubled down on the idea of the federal government asserting a more expansive form of control.
“If a state can’t run an election, I think the people behind me should do something about it,” Trump said, referring to congressional Republicans standing alongside him at an Oval Office signing ceremony.
He pointed to purported “corruption on elections” in Detroit, Philadelphia and Atlanta and said: “If they can’t count the votes legally and honestly, then somebody else should take over.”…”
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This is good to see that some small true Christian groups understand and are calling out the danger that Trump and Christian Nationalists pose.One of the problems with the church is that, but for a (false) spokesman like Trump with a massive platform, there's no "one voice." But many faith groups are taking this on. For example --
Statement from Christians Against Christian Nationalism — Christians Against Christian Nationalism
Join thousands Christians from across the country in standing up to Christian Nationalism.
As Lutheran bishops we stand for religious liberty and against Christian Nationalism • Wisconsin Examiner
We are concerned about an executive order signed by President Trump that established a new “Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias.”
Church in state: Christian nationalism and the politicization of faith - Anglican Journal
The Rev. Lucia Lloyd, then of the Episcopal Church, watched the first Trump presidency with apprehension. Her friends told her there would be limits to what damage he could do, despite his discriminatory and hostile rhetoric toward women and minorities, but she remained concerned. One thing she...
I applaud them, but I no longer think they have the ability to overcome the catastrophic damage Trump and conservative evangelicals are doing to the faith.
It would be good if that concern could be consolidated into one voice but at this point those groups are shouting into the wind...
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Somebody is looking at an in-depth IRS audit in the near future.
Mulberry Heel
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I think the damage has already been done, although stuff like Trump's remarks at the National Prayer Breakfast today just keep making it worse. American Christianity has been in decline for a long time, partly because of well-publicized scandals and incidents of hypocrisy that have become a regular occurrence and partly because so much of it is now tied hand and foot to the MAGA GOP, but Trump has probably done more to damage American Christianity than anyone or anything else.
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As an atheist I take some solace in Trump and right wing evangelicals helping drive the next generation away from Christianity and organized religion in general.
Those who are identifying as Christians have been in a sharp trend downward and trends of those as identifying "no religion" are trending upward. I see this as a positive.
I have a quote by Diderot on my office bulletin board which serves as my north star...
"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest "
