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Go to their History Department webpage: History

They list no faculty except the chair.

I visit a great many college and university websites -- first and foremost because the search for birthdays for the Biorhythms has long required that I do that -- so I'm much more familiar with such things as most folks are. When a school does not list faculty AT ALL they are bottomed out academically.

BTW, before the BOG/NCGA attacked UNCG and UNCA they dispatched with ECSU in this manner.
 
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Go to their History Department webpage: History

They list no faculty except the chair.

I visit a great many college and university websites -- first and foremost because the search for birthdays for the Biorhythms has long required that I do that -- so I'm much more familiar with such things as most folks are. When a school does not list faculty AT ALL they are bottomed out academically.

BTW, before the BOG/NCGA attacked UNCG and UNCA they dispatched with ECSU in this manner.
Yikes
 
I think if they could go beyond the here's how you steer a drone to something a little more advanced like here's how you can use a drone or a fleet of drones to accomplish certain tasks automatically, it could be a pretty cool degree that would have some long-term implications but I'm guessing that sort of program doesn't come out of Elizabeth state.
If the program had a couple of courses on how to use drones to replace fireworks displays, then I think I would sign-up.
 
But thinking harder about it, many universities have many of their buildings paid for with donations and I would guess that is rarer at community colleges. They have to pay rent or a building note. But that new building is going to have significantly lower maintenance and utility costs than an 80 year old building at UNC. So I don't really know who would have an advantage.
Central Piedmont has a bunch of buildings with peoples' names on them. Four of their campuses in Newell (Cato,) Pineville (Harper,) Matthews (Levine,) and Airport area (Harris) are named for big donors. CPCC has been very good at raising money from rich folks in Charlotte.
 
My former SIL went to St. Andrews for a while (1970s)
She went to a lot colleges for a while She was a "smart" girl-lots of MH issues , and her well educated Father just kept trying to get her educated . Sad on many levels
 
I guess that's about it. They were in a tough spot for decades in a less desirable area as the college-age population declined and the market for a liberal arts degree declined.

I did read a story about the history of the place. Apparently the idea was to merge three single sex Presbyterian colleges into this brand new modern campus in the 1960s. Use the resources from those colleges to put St Andrews in a sustainable position but at the last minute Peace college in Raleigh backed out and since then, St Andrews has always been undercapitalized.
 
My sister, wife, and two of my wife's first cousins all went to St. Andrews. While they extolled its virtues, none of them were shocked or surprised at its passing. Gi Bill educational benefits, Baby Boomers, and the Vietnam War distorted post high school education in the US for almost 50 years. If I had it to do over again, then my first two years of college would have been at a community college, hopefully followed by the next two years at four year college.

I will be forever grateful for the four years of emotional maturity I got while in the Army. My parents did not hide their predictions of gloom and tragedy my decision foretold. But fortunately, as I was the seventh of seven children, I had plenty of examples of how college could go wrong. And as a bonus, every college course I took in the Army in Germany, except for that two month long--weekends only--course in wine tasting transferred.
 
I suspect that more and more smaller colleges are going to fold in future years as the eligible pool of students shrinks, the number of donors for small colleges shrinks, and they exhaust their relatively small reserves of money. I don't see how a lot of these smaller colleges complete already against much larger schools that have better facilities, more to do, more educational classes and options, and are simply more prestigious. And I like small colleges (especially liberal arts ones), but they're already in a difficult environment and as it gradually gets worse I don't think a number of them are going to make it. If we have a severe recession or depression many of them would likely go bankrupt quite quickly. I know in central NC that Guilford College, Bennett College, and Salem College have all had major financial and/or enrollment problems in just the last few years.
 
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Ruh-Roh Raggy
Hampshire College, might be the highest profile closure yet. One of the Five College Consortium (and part of the Scooby Doo legend) with Amherst, Smith, Holyoke and UMass, Hampshire staved off closure a few years ago with a big campaign from students and alumni, but the trends were clear that salvation would be temporary. Progressive since its inception, Hampshire was a highly selective college with a solid reputation.
I’m sad about this because I know there will be more, many more, high quality LACs that have been truly transformative for many students and produced thousands of thoughtful, well-educated and productive graduates who were better people because of their experiences at those institutions.

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Hampshire College Will Close Amid Student Enrollment Declines​

Other small private colleges like Hampshire have closed in recent years as financial pressures and competition for students increase.

Hampshire College, a small liberal arts school in Western Massachusetts, has succumbed to years of financial struggle and will close permanently after the fall semester.

A multiyear effort to refinance debt, raise funds, pursue land development and increase enrollment failed to produce a viable path to saving the 56-year-old college. On Sunday, its board of trustees voted to shut down, according to the school’s president.

Hampshire is the alma mater of the filmmaker Ken Burns, who made his first documentary movie as a student there.

“This is an extraordinary loss for those of us who went there,” Mr. Burns, who graduated from Hampshire in 1975, said in an interview on Tuesday. The school, known for experimentation in classes and methods, offered “sort of medieval guild-like tutors and apprenticeships,” he said.
 
Ruh-Roh Raggy
Hampshire College, might be the highest profile closure yet. One of the Five College Consortium (and part of the Scooby Doo legend) with Amherst, Smith, Holyoke and UMass, Hampshire staved off closure a few years ago with a big campaign from students and alumni, but the trends were clear that salvation would be temporary. Progressive since its inception, Hampshire was a highly selective college with a solid reputation.
I’m sad about this because I know there will be more, many more, high quality LACs that have been truly transformative for many students and produced thousands of thoughtful, well-educated and productive graduates who were better people because of their experiences at those institutions.

Gift link…

Hampshire College Will Close Amid Student Enrollment Declines​

Other small private colleges like Hampshire have closed in recent years as financial pressures and competition for students increase.

Hampshire College, a small liberal arts school in Western Massachusetts, has succumbed to years of financial struggle and will close permanently after the fall semester.

A multiyear effort to refinance debt, raise funds, pursue land development and increase enrollment failed to produce a viable path to saving the 56-year-old college. On Sunday, its board of trustees voted to shut down, according to the school’s president.

Hampshire is the alma mater of the filmmaker Ken Burns, who made his first documentary movie as a student there.

“This is an extraordinary loss for those of us who went there,” Mr. Burns, who graduated from Hampshire in 1975, said in an interview on Tuesday. The school, known for experimentation in classes and methods, offered “sort of medieval guild-like tutors and apprenticeships,” he said.
I think we're just at the tip of the iceberg in terms of small colleges closing (and small private high schools closing as well). There are a number of liberal-arts colleges across NC alone that are just hanging on and which may well close within the next decade or two. Dark, dark days for the humanities and liberal arts in this country.
 
I think we're just at the tip of the iceberg in terms of small colleges closing (and small private high schools closing as well). There are a number of liberal-arts colleges across NC alone that are just hanging on and which may well close within the next decade or two. Dark, dark days for the humanities and liberal arts in this country.
Yep. I think their customer base has shifted dramatically. Less kids going to college and less desire for the liberal arts education And just less desire overall for things like single sex education and HBCUs. Also less desire for the bills that come with the private school education.

St Mary's in Raleigh is looking brilliant right now. They went from an all-girls fr/so college combined with 11-12 th grades to an all girls high school with a boarding school component and they are growing. Peace and Meredith are struggling with enrollment.

All that being said, Davidson, Elon and High Point are doing very well. They've been fundraising like mad to improve amenities and make sure the endowment is in good shape.
 
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