Syria & Middle East News Catch-all | Lebanon Finally Elects a PM

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HeelingAg said:
Wow. Does Assad have a militarized force willing to fight for him? Even a “kings guard”? The speed with which this has unfolded is shocking.
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Just like Afghanistan or Libya. Once the foreign support goes away, these regimes can fall very quickly.
 
There had been persistent but not particularly credible rumors for a while now of Assad being sick (or even dead). His wife has leukemia maybe that fed wild rumors about him, I dunno, I hadn’t taken it seriously (there were similar units when he seems to be missing in August for 2-3 weeks) but am starting to wonder if perhaps he is ill or something to act/give some sort of public rallying speech (or maybe everyone hates him so much he wouldn’t bother). I think he is only 59 or 60.
 


Assad’s reign may be over but the chaos has probably just begun for Syrians.
 
nycfan said:


Assad’s reign may be over but the chaos has probably just begun for Syrians.
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I dunno. Things went so smoothly in Libya after Qaddafi fell. And it is not like Syria has a dozen neighbors with different designs on the country.
 
nycfan said:
Weird way for the president-elect to frame this — seems mostly concerned about Russia’s interests.

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Despite the rambling weirdness, and the logical disconnect of criticizing Obama for staying out of it, while he advocates the same thing, the last four sentences are why Trump's foreign policy is a popular position. Expect similar choices throughout his presidency.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Despite the rambling weirdness, and the logical disconnect of criticizing Obama for staying out of it, while he advocates the same thing, the last four sentences are why Trump's foreign policy is a popular position. Expect similar choices throughout his presidency.
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The problem is that he's a one size fits all guy. I'm with him on this one but wouldn't be with him if he took this view on the Ukraine because that's a positive for us and all we have to do is send lawyers, guns and money. We've done that everywhere in the world for 75 years. This time, we've learned not to send soldiers.
 
finesse said:
The problem is that he's a one size fits all guy. I'm with him on this one but wouldn't be with him if he took this view on the Ukraine because that's a positive for us and all we have to do is send lawyers, guns and money. We've done that everywhere in the world for 75 years. This time, we've learned not to send soldiers.
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I think it's still a bit of a wait and see. Despite what we hear on here, I don't think Trump is willing to bend over for Putin. I think Trump would very much like to end the Ukraine war but not be criticized for being a loser. So that likely plays out as an opening and closing of the weapon spigot based on Russia and Ukraine's willingness to make concessions towards peace. That likely means Ukraine loses territory and becomes some sort of non-NATO buffer state that leans to the West. It also likely means zielinski will keep his job unless he's voted out at some point. That's my guess as to how it will play out but we'll see.

As for the Palestinians, there's not going to be too much even-handedness there. It's going to be the bombings will continue until capitulation.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think it's still a bit of a wait and see. Despite what we hear on here, I don't think Trump is willing to bend over for Putin. I think Trump would very much like to end the Ukraine war but not be criticized for being a loser. So that likely plays out as an opening and closing of the weapon spigot based on Russia and Ukraine's willingness to make concessions towards peace. That likely means Ukraine loses territory and becomes some sort of non-NATO buffer state that leans to the West. It also likely means zielinski will keep his job unless he's voted out at some point. That's my guess as to how it will play out but we'll see.

As for the Palestinians, there's not going to be too much even-handedness there. It's going to be the bombings will continue until capitulation.
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He's been bending over for Putin for a decade but you think that stops now?
 
Different doesn't always mean better, as basically every US regime change has proven, but Assad was a horrible person. Glad to see him out
 
Will be very interesting to see how Syria moves forward. Could easily become another shitshow.

I really hope for the best.
 
lawtig02 said:
I'd put big money on Russia, followed by Iran.
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I haven’t been right about much recently so I’ll take this one.


Assad and his family arrive in Moscow and have been granted asylum, Russian state media reports​

From CNN's Darya Tarasova
Overthrown Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his family have arrived in Moscow after being granted asylum in Russia, according to Russian state media TASS, citing a source in the Kremlin.
 
I’d recommend that the Assads ask for a nice compound with as many single floor dachas as they require and that they avoid flights on Russian-maintained aircraft.
 
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