Tariffs Catch-All

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No wonder I'm confused. I always thought that go along and get along thing was kinda useful in making deals.

Curious minds wonder if there isn't a clear distinction between eight rounds and eight tries.
 
ZenMode said:
I don't trust the go-along-to-get-along beurocrats to do what's best for the country, even after 8 tries.
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I don't trust you to have any fucking clue what is best for the country. You are saying that you know better than thousands of smart, highly educated people -- people way smarter and more educated than you -- who have infinitely more experience given that you have none.

Nobody does extreme arrogance better than you. In fact, you're the most arrogant person on this board hands down.
 
superrific said:
I don't trust you to have any fucking clue what is best for the country.
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Duh ... clearly it's only YOU that has a clue on EVERYTHING!
superrific said:
You are saying that you know better than thousands of smart, highly educated people -- people way smarter and more educated than you -- who have infinitely more experience given that you have none.
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superrific said:
Nobody does extreme arrogance better than you. In fact, you're the most arrogant person on this board hands down.
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ZenMode said:
Duh ... clearly it's only YOU that has a clue on EVERYTHING!
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Not only me, duh. But at least I know things. You don't. The gap between your knowledge of what we talk about here, and my knowledge, is approximately the same as the girls' basketball team at Chapel Hill High and the UNC men's varsity. But everyone already knows that, which is why my opinion is valued and yours scorned.

And I keep telling you: your opinion wouldn't be scorned if you tried to learn. If you learned things, you'd be surprised how much more respect you would have. You can close the gap between us. I can't, but you can.
 
ZenMode said:
The strategy, in general, should be to come to agreements with each country so we aren't getting hit with large tariffs while charging low tariffs.

China is a separate issue...
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That is not the problem. The real problem is government subsidized industries, like Chinese steel, which can then be sold at a lower cost in the US due to that subsidization.

The second issue is non-tariff barriers, like requiring US companies to partner with local companies if they wish to sell into a market or requiring IP transfers.

Us getting charged higher tariffs is not a thing.
 
Calheel said:
That is not the problem. The real problem is government subsidized industries, like Chinese steel, which can then be sold at a lower cost in the US due to that subsidization.
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Also known as a subsidy. LOL. I always find it funny when people take a noun that came from a verb, and then "verbify" it by adding a suffix and that's how we get utilization instead of use. We all do it.

Anyway, one problem here is that it's quite difficult to measure the subsidy. We assume it should be there because we assume that the Chinese companies' price structure is the same as ours. I don't know if that's a good assumption to make.

The non-tariff barrier business is likely going away on its own, as I mentioned above. China isn't afraid of US tech any more.
 
Treasury Department reports that customs duties revenue for April totaled 16.3 B as compared to 7.1 B last April.

It won’t solve the debt problem alone but it’s a start.
 
Ramrouser said:
Treasury Department reports that customs duties revenue for April totaled 16.3 B as compared to 7.1 B last April.

It won’t solve the debt problem alone but it’s a start.
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Right. Boosted by businesses importing more than normal in effort to get ahead of the tariffs.

It won’t solve anything, but you’ll lap up and parrot the propaganda pumped out by right wing media.
 
The importation of goods by businesses to increase inventories occurred prior to April 1st - Liberation Day. - when the new tariffs went into effect.
 
ZenMode said:
"That" being the discrepancy between tariffs we're charged and tariffs we charge.

We have 300 million people and we have lots of money. We will have a trade deficit with certain countries indefinitely.
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There's always going to be differences in trade. Hint we probably don't buy the exact same thing we are selling to China.

I read about one very poor country that we purchase a lot of diamonds from. This country is so poor they don't purchase much back, so it appears that we have this big trade imbalance. But in actuality there's nothing wrong with it not being dollar for dollar.
 
ZenMode said:
No, I'm contesting that there isn't still a gap between what we charge and are charged.

I don't trust the go-along-to-get-along beurocrats to do what's best for the country, even after 8 tries.
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But you trust a failed con man grifter, who's only rich because of his daddy? A felon that's bankrupted multiple companies?

Wow, I don't know what to say.
 
Ramrouser said:
Treasury Department reports that customs duties revenue for April totaled 16.3 B as compared to 7.1 B last April.

It won’t solve the debt problem alone but it’s a start.
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This is also attributed to over stocking to beat the tariffs. So, at some point there will be a correction to level out those orders, that month will erase this extra "Revenue".
 
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