Texas VS. California Redistricting

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Ramrouser said:
I'll give you a short answer because I don't want to spend time on a bill that has ZERO chance of passing unless Dems run the table and somehow elect 60 Senators.

1. It reinstates the preclearance requirement under the Voting Rights Act of 1965 for election maps for only SOUTHERN STATES based upon outdated data from 60 years ago as determined by Shelby County decision. It unfairly impacts Southern States (red) and allows a Dem Justice Department to discriminate against and unfairly impact Red States; and

2. It essentially codifies and nationalizes the extremely loose COVID voting requirements (liberal early voting; mail in voting; drop boxes; ballots mailed to everyone, drop boxes on every corner, etc.) which somehow allowed a guy who campaigned in a basement or in front of 30 people in cars honking to obtain 82 million votes. No wonder this was the Dems' # 1 bill once they took the House?
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1) I'll have to read more.

2) That response sounds like an election denying conspiracy theorist. My opinion is we should make it much easier and require everyone of voting age to vote.

But, thanks for responding, I do appreciate discourse.
 
Ramrouser said:
As you are aware, these loosened standards that the Dems fight so hard for make it easier for them or their allies to cheat. Hell Dems don't even want you to show an ID to vote. I have no issue with early voting, mail in voting and even drop boxes if safeguarded properly. The new Georgia law allows all three but now requires drop boxes to be located inside facilities instead of in parking lots. Also, strict ID requirement and signature verification together with a duplicate paper ballot. For that, Biden labeled us Jim Crow 2.0.
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Ok, let's say every undocumented person votes, Edgar makes you believe the all vote Dem? Based on the breakdown of the last election this wouldn't seem to be a good assumption.

So, while I don't believe it to be true, if your premise were true there wouldn't be enough of s difference to actually impact the election.

As for identification, we have so many avenues to vet people now and let them vote via their phone that the id requirements are just ridiculously antiquated.

We have our driver's licenses in our phone in Georgia, between that, prevarification, and a fingerprint or facial recognition or both, we should be able to vote via phone.
 
Ramrouser said:
As you are aware, these loosened standards that the Dems fight so hard for make it easier for them or their allies to cheat. Hell Dems don't even want you to show an ID to vote. I have no issue with early voting, mail in voting and even drop boxes if safeguarded properly. The new Georgia law allows all three but now requires drop boxes to be located inside facilities instead of in parking lots. Also, strict ID requirement and signature verification together with a duplicate paper ballot. For that, Biden labeled us Jim Crow 2.0.
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Do you believe that financial transactions should all require identification and signature verification? It would seem to me that a financial transaction is at least as important as voting for societal security.
 
wmheel1287 said:
Do you believe that financial transactions should all require identification and signature verification? It would seem to me that a financial transaction is at least as important as voting for societal security.
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Most do. Banks have your signature card on file and require identification for financial transactions.

Many legal documents require a notary public who verifies the identity of the party executing the document.
 
Ramrouser said:
Most do. Banks have your signature card on file and require identification for financial transactions.

Many legal documents require a notary public who verifies the identity of the party executing the document.
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Hi, Ram. Could you please weigh in on the press conference being given right now by the guy you voted to lead the greatest nation in the history of the world? TIA.
 
Healing said:
That's not what he meant, and you know it. Once you figure out how to appropriately obfuscate and supplicate your claimed political values, we all look forward to listening.
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Lighten up Francis. I’m not able to comment because I only heard a small part of it while in the car. I’ll get the recap tonight I assume he talked about DC and the upcoming summit with Putin.
 
Ramrouser said:
Most do. Banks have your signature card on file and require identification for financial transactions.

Many legal documents require a notary public who verifies the identity of the party executing the document.
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Most do not. The heart of our entire economy are credit card transactions that require nothing in the way of identity verification. Other than the ABC store in NC. I cannot think of a single time I am asked to verify my identity when using my credit cards.

Specific financial transactions require verification of identity because of underlying laws, but the heart of our economy operates entirely without it.

You're also correct that many legal documents require notarization, but also ignoring the fact that most legal documents do not. Take as an example a real estate transactions. The final step of deed creation and recording requires notarization. However, nobody is verifying the identity of buyers and sellers throughout the entire marketing process including the creation of the sales contract itself. It all operates on good faith.
 
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Credit card companies prioritize the ease of transactions over verifying the identity of the user for business reasons. View fraudulent transactions as the cost of doing business.
 
Ramrouser said:
Credit card companies prioritize the ease of transactions over verifying the identity of the user for business reasons. View fraudulent transactions as the cost of doing business.
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I understand the rationale. I'm just pointing out your error in stating that most financial transactions require verification of ID. Most do not and never have. Even when we mostly paid with checks in the mail, nobody was verifying identification.

There is currently a months-long backlog just to get into the DMV in NC. Should the folks who cannot do so just not be able to vote even though there is no reasonable evidence that fraudulent voting is taking place?
 
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