The Charlie Kirk Thread

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altmin said:
Questions I have about the director of the FBI

1. Does he know the difference between subject and person of interest?
2. Does he know someone is innocent till proven guilty. his first tweet sure seems to imply he does not.
3. Does he not understand what putting his thumb on the scale of justice can do in a trial setting to prejudice a jury?
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It would be ironic, tragically and a little bit comically ironic, if Patel fucks up the investigation and leads to an acquittal or a dismissal with prejudice.
 
King Hippo said:
Racism, bigotry, Christian nationalism and fascism isn't just a different view when you actively try to take away rights for people and treat them differently just because they are not a straight white Christian. But tell yourself whatever you want to justify your party doing all that, and it's not just the fringe right doing it.
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You and fever are two peas in a pod.
 
Callatoroy said:
I didn't misrepresent anything. He was mentally ill, had a history of violence, and was arrested 14 times. He shouldn't have been on the street. Only officials put in place by DEI can't see that and of course their plan is to make him write a letter. There is no defending this and you only look like a fool for trying. These are the people you elect: "In September 2025, Representative Jasmine Crockett drew widespread criticism after stating in a podcast that law enforcement's role is to solve crimes, not necessarily to prevent them." I love her though because its those idiots that keep your party down.
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Why did a Republican DA let this guy go free? Did he mistakenly think that he was a 1/6 insurrectionist?
 
wmheel1287 said:
You were replying directly to me amid a spewing of bile that was inclusive of every person on the left according to you. You said "physician, heal thyself".

You need to own your own commentary and just how inflammatory and reactionary you are if you want others to do the same.
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I own everything I post. If you or someone misinterprets or questions it then ask for clarification. If not that's on you. My point that this board, fueled by MANY of its most active posters is the very definition of sewing hatred. Do you call them out for their role in that?
 
I've been thinking about this for the last couple of hours. It's hard for me to square how I'm feeling about it all. Obviously, I loathe and condemn any and all violence or killing in all forms, political or apolitical. And I absolutely detest any human being who extinguishes the life of another with hatred, malice, or intent.

That said, I find myself not really feeling sorry for Charlie himself, aside from feeling sad for him that he'll never hug his wife or kiss his children ever again. As a husband and father of two very young children in my mid-30's, that is the part that tugs my heartstrings the most. But I don't really feel sorry for Charlie, because I believe that his use of his enormous visibility to platform hatred and sow division, for profit, for has caused harm to a lot of people in our country. Does that mean he deserved to die for his views and beliefs? Absolutely, positively, unequivocally NOT. I hate that he's dead, and I hate even more the reason that he's dead. But it's hard to feel sorry for someone who proudly boasted that people dying as a result of gun violence is a necessary sacrifice for the Second Amendment. I'm a gun owner and a believer in the right to own guns, and I find his notion that human lives are necessary sacrifices for other humans to be able to own firearms.

I do feel deep, heartfelt sadness and sympathy for his wife, his children, and his parents. None of them should have to bury a 31-year-old husband, father, and son because of (probable) politically-motivated violence. I feel sadness for all of them and sincerely pray that they find some semblance of peace, comfort, and strength in the hours and days ahead. I hope they have all of the support and help they need.

It's so disheartening and dismaying that we live in a society today where children being massacred in their classrooms, politicians being massacred in their homes, and political commentators being murdered at speaking events has become so commonplace, so *NOT* unusual, and so frequent, that so many people's immediate reaction is to figure out how to best utilize the senseless loss of other human lives to score political points.
 
ZenMode said:
Where was this shooter in PA?


(kidding. too soon?)
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People like this are who give the green light to lunatics, and this is the result. When you call someone a Nazi, and you say they are an eminent threat to democracy, and you label their supporters the enemy of this country, and you continually beat the drums of war against your fellow Americans, you can cause irrational people to conclude that the only thing that can be done is to eliminate the perceived threat.

But by doing so, you have to accept that the same green light will be given to the lunatics who oppose you. It is just the opposite side of the same coin.

So here we are, expected to believe that white supremacy is the number one threat to this country while we watched the Left kill two dozen people on their way to causing billions of dollars in damage during the BLM riots while being defended by the Democrat party and the liberal media. We watch ANTIFA wreak destruction and take over parts of liberal cities. We see Tesla dealerships firebombed. We see two attempts on Trump's life, we see Steve Scalise shot on the ballfield, and today we see Charlie Kirk killed. Give me examples of the far right's equivalent transgressions. You can't.

We'll see the difference between the right and the left play out right now. The left used the murder of a career criminal (George Floyd) to themselves commit murder, destroy, loot and pillage communities over and over again. The right just witnessed the murder of one of their most influential supporters who by all accounts was a good Christian father and husband. Someone who had a bright future in the conservative movement and watch how they handle it.

What I can assure you is they will not mirror the radical left and end up walking down the street with a tv, a gallon of bleach, and a bag of Fritos-Lay after having burned down the local Dollar General. And that's the difference.

Now, you tell me who the real number 1 threat to this country is.
 
PandemicBlue said:
People like this are who give the green light to lunatics, and this is the result. When you call someone a Nazi, and you say they are an eminent threat to democracy, and you label their supporters the enemy of this country, and you continually beat the drums of war against your fellow Americans, you can cause irrational people to conclude that the only thing that can be done is to eliminate the perceived threat.

But by doing so, you have to accept that the same green light will be given to the lunatics who oppose you. It is just the opposite side of the same coin.

So here we are, expected to believe that white supremacy is the number one threat to this country while we watched the Left kill two dozen people on their way to causing billions of dollars in damage during the BLM riots while being defended by the Democrat party and the liberal media. We watch ANTIFA wreak destruction and take over parts of liberal cities. We see Tesla dealerships firebombed. We see two attempts on Trump's life, we see Steve Scalise shot on the ballfield, and today we see Charlie Kirk killed. Give me examples of the far right's equivalent transgressions. You can't.

We'll see the difference between the right and the left play out right now. The left used the murder of a career criminal (George Floyd) to themselves commit murder, destroy, loot and pillage communities over and over again. The right just witnessed the murder of one of their most influential supporters who by all accounts was a good Christian father and husband. Someone who had a bright future in the conservative movement and watch how they handle it.

What I can assure you is they will not mirror the radical left and end up walking down the street with a tv, a gallon of bleach, and a bag of Fritos-Lay after having burned down the local Dollar General. And that's the difference.

Now, you tell me who the real number 1 threat to this country is.
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The number 1 threat to this country is people like you who enjoy scoring political points before the bodies of slain human beings are even cold. You are grotesque.
 
Callatoroy said:
I own everything I post. If you or someone misinterprets or questions it then ask for clarification. If not that's on you. My point that this board, fueled by MANY of its most active posters is the very definition of sewing hatred. Do you call them out for their role in that?
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There was no misinterpreting of what you said or what you intended in that moment. You just now would like to walk it back because you realize the overzealous nature of what you said.

I was never "calling you out" to begin with. I asked you twice to stop adding to the bitter environment that already saturates our daily lives. You responded by lashing out at me in the same manner you were lashing out at others. That I did call out.
 
PandemicBlue said:
People like this are who give the green light to lunatics, and this is the result. When you call someone a Nazi, and you say they are an eminent threat to democracy, and you label their supporters the enemy of this country, and you continually beat the drums of war against your fellow Americans, you can cause irrational people to conclude that the only thing that can be done is to eliminate the perceived threat.

But by doing so, you have to accept that the same green light will be given to the lunatics who oppose you. It is just the opposite side of the same coin.

So here we are, expected to believe that white supremacy is the number one threat to this country while we watched the Left kill two dozen people on their way to causing billions of dollars in damage during the BLM riots while being defended by the Democrat party and the liberal media. We watch ANTIFA wreak destruction and take over parts of liberal cities. We see Tesla dealerships firebombed. We see two attempts on Trump's life, we see Steve Scalise shot on the ballfield, and today we see Charlie Kirk killed. Give me examples of the far right's equivalent transgressions. You can't.

We'll see the difference between the right and the left play out right now. The left used the murder of a career criminal (George Floyd) to themselves commit murder, destroy, loot and pillage communities over and over again. The right just witnessed the murder of one of their most influential supporters who by all accounts was a good Christian father and husband. Someone who had a bright future in the conservative movement and watch how they handle it.

What I can assure you is they will not mirror the radical left and end up walking down the street with a tv, a gallon of bleach, and a bag of Fritos-Lay after having burned down the local Dollar General. And that's the difference.

Now, you tell me who the real number 1 threat to this country is.
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Uhhhh remember the Trumper who murdered a Democratic state rep and her husband just a few weeks ago, and shot two others? Or the nut job who attacked the CDC and killed someone last month? Remember 1/6? Of course you don’t.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
Uhhhh remember the Trumper who murdered a Democratic state rep and her husband just a few weeks ago, and shot two others? Or the nut job who attacked the CDC and killed someone last month? Remember 1/6? Of course you don’t.
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Yeah, acting as if political violence is one sided is a totally wild take and completely ignores reality.
 
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