The Charlie Kirk Thread

superrific said:
He does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. He was not talking about affirmative action. He openly talked about black women not having sufficient "brain processing power" (hey, dead dumbass, we aren't PCs). He had a worldview in which white people were the smartest and thus most qualified to lead. I don't know why you would give him the benefit of any doubt. He most certainly did not deserve it, at all.
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I was thinking about that particular quote when I wrote my previous post and agree that that one is really bad and impossible to justify.

Anyway I used the one quote to show that 1) some people missed the context of it being about affirmative action (and the pilot one was) and 2) it doesn't matter because he was so intent on being provocative that it crossed the line into being racist.
 
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'You're lying': JD Vance under fire for 'incredibly irresponsible' podcast rant

Vice President JD Vance's appearance on Monday's episode of "The Charlie Kirk Show" raised the eyebrows of many political observers. Vance interviewed White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller on a new episode of the late conservative activist Charlie Kirk's namesake podcast. Observers...
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Glenn Kessler, author and former fact-checker at the Washington Post, posted on Bluesky. "I recently checked the ADL data, which has some issues because they include non-ideological murders. But even with those removed, over the past decade right-wing extremists would account for about half of the murders, with about 35% by Islamist extremists, and 8% by left-wing extremist."
 
ZenMode said:
Again... anything is possible but Kirk was clearly anti-trans, anti-gay, anti-LGBTQ. Tyler was in some kind of relationship and living with a transgender person.

I guess I don't see how anti-semitism/white nationalism fits into this
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Wow. You cracked it. Tyler wasn't a fan of Kirk.

I don't think any of us would have known that had you not pointed this out.
 
4thgenheel said:
"meaningful involvement" is way subjective.

i've said this to you no less than 17 times over the last several days. there are some examples of bad, divisive rhetoric from the left but it is categorically outnumbered in both frequency and temperature by the rhetoric coming from right wing politicians and influencers.
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If you’ve responded to that poster 17 total much less on one topic, you are part of the problem.
 
Yeah, just forget the racism and bigotry that Kirk spewed. People should just be tolerant of it. Just tolerate that some people hate non whites, gays, trans, and non Christians just because they aren't straight white Christian nationalists. Can't people just be inclusive and tolerate it? Also, never mind that Kirk was killed because Robinson thought Kirk wasn't racist and bigoted enough.
 
What does it say about a person that when they die, merely the act of directly quoting them can be viewed as a hostile act that sullies their memory and can lead to termination of their job?

When Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated, was there a mass of people getting fired for quoting his “I Have a Dream” speech? What about JFK’s “Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You” speech?

What type of shit person must you have been in life where simply the act of quoting you directly gets people fired after you die?
 
WaynetheDrain said:
What does it say about a person that when they die, merely the act of directly quoting them can be viewed as a hostile act that sullies their memory and can lead to termination of their job?

When Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated, was there a mass of people getting fired for quoting his “I Have a Dream” speech? What about JFK’s “Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You” speech?

What type of shit person must you have been in life where simply the act of quoting you directly gets people fired after you die?
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What kind of shit employer do you have to be to fire people for just quoting Kirk?
 
Gem from the old ZZL

"If the roles were reversed, if this had been someone who had a liberal point of view and was assassinated in this way, there would be riots in the streets, and cities would be burning. You aren't being honest if you say otherwise. What has been the conservative response? Prayer vigils and memorials. One sounds violent, the other doesn't."
 
Heelsandeers said:
Gem from the old ZZL

"If the roles were reversed, if this had been someone who had a liberal point of view and was assassinated in this way, there would be riots in the streets, and cities would be burning. You aren't being honest if you say otherwise. What has been the conservative response? Prayer vigils and memorials. One sounds violent, the other doesn't."
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Lol, the OPs newsfeed didn't cover the Hortman murder.
 
Heelsandeers said:
Gem from the old ZZL

"If the roles were reversed, if this had been someone who had a liberal point of view and was assassinated in this way, there would be riots in the streets, and cities would be burning. You aren't being honest if you say otherwise. What has been the conservative response? Prayer vigils and memorials. One sounds violent, the other doesn't."
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Things grow ever darker in the right-wing alternative reality.
 
nycfan said:


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It has already been posted but posting again …



“Well if the Governor had asked me to that, I would’ve done that. But the Governor of Minnesota didn’t ask me. I didn’t, uh, I wouldn’t have thought of that but I would’ve if somebody had asked me, people make requests … often times you have to say no because it would be a lot of lowering …”

Flashback:

 
Healing said:
Except for all the Groyper language and memes? I mean, the killer dressed as Pepe the frog for Halloween. Bella Ciao is a Groyper co-opted song with very little relevance in genZ outside of groypers, from what I’ve ascertained (happy to be wrong). It’s on a groyper Spotify playlist. A groyper handle on Twitter is AFBellaCiao -it’s a groyper - it’s gross. AF is America First (Nick Fuentes’ org). The killer references Kirk as a fascist, which is what groypers use ironically to label Kirk and conservatives to their left. The “if you read this you are gay” is a punching down right-wing meme, and the groypers have long criticized TPUSA as being too friendly to gay people.

Sure, maybe the killer wasn’t listening to Nick Fuentes everyday, but there’s very little doubt the killer was steeped in groyper culture, for many years. Was he doing some kind of framing to cover for being in a relationship with a non binary furry? Maybe. Did you know the terminally online furry culture has a severe problem with neo Nazis? And as I said in a post yesterday, the alleged roommate/friend appears to have posted criticisms of the left and orients as an anarchocapitalist (as you mentioned).

I think it’s really unwise to assume the MANY obvious connections to the farthest right are insignificant, but the cooperating friend it tantamount.
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This will be a crazy documentary on netflix.
 
Heelsandeers said:
Gem from the old ZZL

"If the roles were reversed, if this had been someone who had a liberal point of view and was assassinated in this way, there would be riots in the streets, and cities would be burning. You aren't being honest if you say otherwise. What has been the conservative response? Prayer vigils and memorials. One sounds violent, the other doesn't."
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And I've read that 1000 times on Social media.
 
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