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TarSpiel said:
Wow, I did not know that.

That's huge.
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Unfortunately, I don't exactly know where I got that bit of information on the patriarchs. My guess is that it's a footnote in either the Oxford NSRV or the JPS Bible. There's a off-chance that it might be from Shayne Cohen's book on second-temple Judaism or Jacob Wright's recent book on the Hebrew bible.

I tried to tag you in another post but I don't think it worked. Do you know any scholarship on ancient near eastern religion (or whatever) that tackles the sorts of questions that I'm asking about on page 7? Once I stumbled into this (amateur) explanation, Kierkegaard's take on Genesis 22 made sense to me: oh, the leap of faith is required to clear the ontological chasm separating post-Enlightenment humans from God.

mpaer

Politics Thread 'In my mid Life I was an actively engaged Christian'

Chapel Hill Episcopalian...I was in a variety of Study groups-mostly with curriculim shared by many in the USA ( one was called St Augustine I think), some hands on stuff -Prison Visitation for maybe 20 years-one two year group that led to a "diploma" from Swanananoa in Social Ministry (I think that was the name) and some run of the mill church work in deciding which non Profits got grants. Some of this involved folks from other denominations-some all Episcopal.

In all that time I never considered Hell or Heaven-or if I was "Saved". I never thought much about Jesus Christ as my Savior ...
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breepf said:
Unfortunately, I don't exactly know where I got that bit of information on the patriarchs. My guess is that it's a footnote in either the Oxford NSRV or the JPS Bible. There's a off-chance that it might be from Shayne Cohen's book on second-temple Judaism or Jacob Wright's recent book on the Hebrew bible.

I tried to tag you in another post but I don't think it worked. Do you know any scholarship on ancient near eastern religion (or whatever) that tackles the sorts of questions that I'm asking about on page 7?

mpaer

Politics Thread 'In my mid Life I was an actively engaged Christian'

Chapel Hill Episcopalian...I was in a variety of Study groups-mostly with curriculim shared by many in the USA ( one was called St Augustine I think), some hands on stuff -Prison Visitation for maybe 20 years-one two year group that led to a "diploma" from Swanananoa in Social Ministry (I think that was the name) and some run of the mill church work in deciding which non Profits got grants. Some of this involved folks from other denominations-some all Episcopal.

In all that time I never considered Hell or Heaven-or if I was "Saved". I never thought much about Jesus Christ as my Savior ...
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Is this the Charlie Kirk thread? You guys might want to consider starting a new thread for your discussion.
 
Calheel said:
The pattern is firmly established. Ram sees the world as us vs. them. If he sees a claim on social media that supports his “team”, he repeats it uncritically on this site to prove that he is on the right team.

If he sees a claim that supports the other team, he will always find a way to question the source.

He has no interest in discovering the truth, just cheerleading for his team.
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Being behind on the news/post here and reading probably 50+ pages to get caught up, you get a large dose of Ram's post all at once and this post describes him in a nutshell.

He doesn't even really care about lies being told, the outcomes of a lot of policies coming from the Trump admin etc as long as he thinks it polls well for his team.

I mean, we're talking about someone that will post things as facts based on what he saw on Libs of Tik Tok, but everything posted here using Kirk's own hateful words are highly edited...
 
fourheels said:
Makes sense given the purpose of the prophets was twofold:

A. Anoint the new king
B. Critique the king once in power in the context of the Davidic covenant
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Would you say that the social-cum-polemical value of the patriarchs was that they provided an exilic and/or post-exilic Judean culture--under the thumb of empire and in diaspora--with a non-monarchial way of conceptualizing itself?
 
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Enigma94 said:
Apparently you can say anything that's racist as hell as long as you add some more commentary around it and call it "context". The funny thing is when asked to provide the context that makes the statements ok, his followers refuse to do so.
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yeah, because there is no context that improves or makes okay the clear implications of so many of the things that he said.
 
Ramrouser said:
You made the charge he’s a racist so you post it. Not my job to disprove a negative.
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Oh, but it would be so easy if it were true. If you really didn't know he was a racist bigot you would be more than willing to post the full video for the win.

All evidence indicates that Charlie Kirk was not a good person by any definition.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Saw a Charlie Kirk billboard on 321 while driving to Lincolnton this morning.
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I've seen several of those. They have to cause home prices to drop, who would want to live around people dumb enough to worshipping him and waste money on a sign.

I bet they also complain about how high their taxes are and how they have no money.
 
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